Are you serious? The series of events:

1. A company launches a new car, which happens to be very effective around a circuit. A video (filmed in conjunction with a magazine) is put on the internet, showing real-time footage of a timed lap on a well-known circuit.

2. The internet goes wild when fans of other manufacturers of performance cars don't like the fact this car is quicker than their preferred model around a certain circuit.

3. Fanboy arguments and rumours, the majority cobbled together very amateurishly, circulate like wildfire for over a year.

4. Repeat 3 ad infinitum.

I've driven quite a few cars, and I've driven a GT-R (admittedly only on a track). It's a great car no matter who manufactured it, and I don't see how that takes anything away from Porsche, Corvette, Ferrari or whoever.

 

I'm not explaining anything to any more trolls. You all come in here asking questions and answering none.

Explain to me how the 500 bhp GT-R runs faster down parts of the backstraight than the ZR-1 and Zonda.

Or dont bother, I'm not waisting any more time with trolls. This is a Porsche forum and I'm free to bash anything that isnt a Porsche if I want to, it's a simple as that. If you dont like it, leave.

 

Yeah these trolls are getting kinda annoying as well as these comparison threads.

 

Nissan picked the fight. They paraded the TT around with the GTR the whole time so it's pretty clear what statement they were making. Porsche laid low until they could find out for themselves and now they know. They have every right to call Nissan out when they suspect a smear campaign at their expense, and so do we.

 

Hey, in that picture that has the Nissan head (can't think of his name) with Chuck Norris throwing a kick at him, The Nissan guy looks like Godzilla!

 

Well this thread has served a great purpose here as a consolidation of trolls that have been plaguing all the various sections of the forum. We are keeping them occupied here. The usual trolls and the new ones are all here instead of posting thread after thread of GT-R garbage, even after being granted a section here which is B.S. in my opinion to begin with and still hasnt helped at all.


They are mad becuase there is now actually some honest press coming out on how Nissan has lied and cheated to get their way. But the GT-R owners are the ones who are getting screwed.

 

Behavioral Psychology holds that you continue doing something because you are some how being rewarded for it. Now, I know that if I were to head over to NAGTROC and start spouting off about how great Porsches are and that they are far superior to Nissans (which of course, is true) I'm going to get flamed to death. So, I don't bother. Also, I don't want to read about all that GTR coolaid that we know to be hype and lies. The trolls must like catching hell, that's all I can figure.

 

It does have a strong resemblance to godzilla..... HAHAHA

 

All he needs are some flames coming out of his mouth, or better yet, his butt, to represent all the hot air Nissan is blowing around!

 

I find it entertaining that the world's biggest motoring forum troll is accusing me of the same behaviour.

I have a GT-R arriving in July next year, this week I've been looking at used 997 Turbos. Does that make me a fanboy? I don't think so.

Show facts (hard evidence, the truth, reality) which prove the 'Ring laptime is incorrect and that the press cars are not standard - not hearsay, not fabricated figures, not adolescent nonsense, but facts. Then you may be taken more seriously.

Until then these interminable posts of unfounded criticism make you look like a teenager with a weird agenda.

 

Nissan Reveals Second GT-R 'Ring Video

Copy and Paste the link, it doesn't work when you direct link for some reason.

[MEDIA]http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=133467[/MEDIA]

 

Nothing has been explained here..... Care to do it for us? Go back through the posts and see if I'm the only one who finds it suspect. This has been gone over in this thread several times and not one decent answer.

The majority of the whole automotive world agrees that Nissan has been lying, so if you look around, you'll likely find less people in your corner than you think.

Again, dont try to make this personal, just state some real facts. Some that you actually though of and arent pasting from Nagtroc might help because I've seen those already.

 

That link just sent me to buy a car, had nothing to do with anything. But as for what you quoted. Again, let's see a test that was indeed witnessed and proven to be factual with a factory stock car proven by others than NISSAN? it doesn't exist. Seems like everyone is calling foul.

Let's see voided warranty, 20K clutch replacement, 7k brake replacement, lies by Nissan. Oh yah, that makes me want to go out and buy one. A porcherboy, troll, whomever you are, why don't you go buy one and then hit your local track, I am sure we can find a few 6speeders that would be more than happy to put that car in it's place, way down the line, kinda like what happened in the "one lap of America" where it came in outside of the top 10, being beaten by porsche, Vette's and Vipers

 

That link has nothing.


And furthermore the video isnt any more convincing than the other that Nissan isnt cheating.


Nissan can nip all this in the bud by releasing telemetry data so we can compare the g forces, acceleration speeds, braking etc with that of the stock cars. That is the ONLY WAY FOR TRUE VINDICATION.

Telemetry never lies, and if Nissan is legit, they will release the telemetry because it will exhonerate them without a doubt, and they know this. But it will also crucify them if not. All these extra videos dont mean jack. Nissan sold a launch control that people arent allowed to use to thousands of people without ever mentioning LC themselves. Do you not think they are clever enough to make a video covering up another of their deceptions???????

 

An off-guard comment by an engineer from Porsche and diatribes from a few hormonal teenagers on the internet do not constitute the majority of the automotive world.

You are the accuser - it's up to you to post facts. I've seen none so far.