OMG!! This thread fell off the first page. The end is near.

Did I mention that all 911's are POS and the GT-R could spank an Enzo with Schumacher driving?

 

Chris, did I mention that your car is ugly and the interior is cheap?

 

This is the neverending thread. That is, until Porsche comes out with PDK and DI and embarasses Nissan while still maintaining a warranty.

Porsche should take someone to Tsukuba and beat the fastest stock GT-R time and put it on youtube. That would be awesome.

 

What?????? Wow the only place the GTR seems to win any races is in Australia and Japan.

 

The lengendary Tiger Woods to most is the worlds best golf player period got beat by a #56 ranked player by the name of Zach Johnson by two strokes and lost the Masters. Not only that Zach was one of the highest scoring players in the history of the Masters.

OMG! That cannot be. Tiger Woods must suck now. I mean he lost to a #56 player and for the first time in the history of the masters no person ranked above #50 ever won a masters.

Moving foward...where are they now...Oh yeah look at Zach's record.

Just because you fix one pipe doesn't make you a plumber.

 

Yes it does.

 

Correct me if i'm wrong but there are numerous track tests where the GTR is faster than the GT2 in the hands of a professional driver, and vice versa. So the two are pretty much even and which car wins pretty much depends on the track layout.
So are you saying that the GTR is Tiger Woods and Zach Johnson is 911 Turbo? Cos the GTR has whipped the turbo's *** in EVERY FRICKEN TRACK TEST. It wasn't a one off caning, but in EVERY TEST. So there's your analogy with Tiger Woods and Zach Johnson mate. Worse yet, the turbo can't even do a 'Zach Johnson' on the GTR - it has'nt even fluke a win....

 

Most of the "it's faster than GT2" claims are based on times from diff drivers on diff days. Most head-to-head (same driver / same track / same day) are versus the Turbo, and GT-R always wins. Those are the tests that I trust (in aggregate, averaging out for all the one-off weirdness that HC likes to talk about).

In VERY skilled hands, around most tracks, I think the GT2 should be faster than GT-R.

I suspect, however, that if you randomly selected 100 Porsche owners from 6SPeed and gave them a day in the GT2 on track and a day in the GT-R on track, that 90% would be faster in the GT-R--- plus you'd probably end up with a few wrecked GT2s.

 

and a few wrecked GTR's because of over-confidence. Remember that is just an dangerous on a track.

 

pretty much!!!!

 

I own a 997s (also had owned 993 & 996) it is not fair to quote 1 or 2 isolated incident and say the GTR is bad. I know friends that owns GTRs, drive them hard and only change oil every 5-6000kms - NO problem at all for 50,000kms. One Premium edition GTR (all stock except with re-map ECU) went to race track last week. Compare with a heavily modified 997tt, the 997tt (slick tires) is 1:51 vs GTR 1:53 (stock tires) ! I know GTR is faster, but it won't make me want to replace my 997s with a GTR. The satisfaction of driving a Porsche can't be replaced !!

 

Pardon me, and I don't mean any disrespect.
Have you been in or driven a GTR ? It is very easy to drive and anyone can go fast in it ! One has to be a terrible driver to crash the GTR.

 

All the hype of the V-spec has evaporated - it is looking like the automotive equivalent of a stuffed bra

 

I agree. I am not tempted.

 

You are a litte late to the party arent' you? More than a few isolated cases and there are more than 30+ reported tranny problems ranging from noise to failure.

Solenoids can only be an excuse for so long. Where is the national campagin for updated software? I am sure it needs a few. BMW addressed this quickly and without blaming everyone else but themselves for the problems.

The track? Give me a break read the news with the GTR trackers. Hot tranny temps, brake not up to par for track, boiling brake fluid, cracked rotors, limp mode, etc. Tires chunking. yay for the R888's coming to the rescue. But wait Nissan says they can deny warranty on changing the wheels/tires out for aftermarket!!

No one is saying any car is perfect but you have more 1/4 mile fanboys then you do track junkies with the GTR's. Why is that? Can't say that about Porsche drivers and the Porsche brand.

"THE RING" times were Nissan's attempt at capturing the throne but what they did was capture the failure of their marketing efforts in an attempt the dethrone years of development and wins. Nissan can win all they want in Europe and Japan but that won't cut the mustard where it really counts.

I haven't said I wouldn't buy one. I have said until I see that Nissan can step up to the plate and get service and warranty in place I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole.

You can read the rest if you are interested not going to retype.

I have driven a GTR hard enough around the streets to know that it is not comfortable with the Run Flats and its not as fast as my Turbo 30-120. I know for a fact on that one and if it were I would not care as I have a complete package with warranty and a service department that has bent over backwards for me when asked.

Until Nissan can step up to Infinity's side of service they have lots of learn. Their sales people need a few lessons in "TRUTH" 101.