[quote=silk;2158489]Well said Quacker, the GT-R just feels modern if compare with Porsche turbos. You have to be one to make the comparison ! I agree with you that most drivers will do better on track with GT-R than with Porsches !

That's really not the point of this thread !!!
This thread is about the Fabled Nuburgring times released by Nissan...
that NO ONE's been able to duplicate in a stock GT-R.

Any newbe will probably be faster in the GT-R...
with ALL it's electronic Gizmo's... driving the car for the student.

This just endanger's both the student & the instructor... the newbe doesn't have the experience to recover... When the GT-R exceeds the Laws of Physics and goes flying off the track.

We have had extensive disscussions about the speeds being run by students with the aid of electronics over on Rennlist. The new electronic aids are Not necessarily a Good Thing !!!
Cya @ the track,
Trumper