[chrisn]

Originally Posted by ALPINE_997

Chrisn your source is 100% correct in the comments of that huh? My sources tells me otherwise and there are 3 cars in my area with failed trannies. Of course these guys must have Launched their cars 50+ times no question right? [Don't know, I report my source data and my conclusions. You decide.]

So tell us in all honesty.

1) True or Not True = Nissan can read how many Launches as car has had before failure? [My understanding is that they know each time you click VDC off, and the black box data shows the throttle position and other stats that allow them to conclude that you were launching hard. Nissan rep said their is no special "LC counter" but they have lots and lots of data to look at before making a determination of abuse. I suppose repeated hard launches with VDC off could be mistaken for LC, but they would still call that abuse.]
2) True or Not True = Nissan has proven that LC has caused the failure without opening up the tranny to see if material/workmanship was not a part of the problem? [Again, my understanding is that the make an educated guess based on black box data. I assume they aren't trying to rip people off for no reason. They have told me that the warranty denied cases were "extreme."]
3) True or Not True = Nissan drove the "The Ring" with VDC off? but consumers can't. [Not sure about that]
4) True or Not True = Nissan put a Ringer in for "Ring" times. [Not sure, but agree that 7:29 sounds fishy]
5) True or Not True = Nissan will no longer publish "Ring" times. [I read the same blog post-- not sure about that. 7:38 time is printed in owner's manual. Will be interesting to see if/how they edit that for next year]
6) True or Not True = Over 3 test cars have been taken off track for tire "chunking". Weight, Bad Tires, or ? [Don't know. If true, is Nissan or GT-R unique in this regard? Do other cars not consume tires on track?]
7) True or Not True = The GTR could not withstand a 12/24 endurance race in stock form. [I see no reaon why it wouldn't, but don't know / don't care.]

You will call those who have broken trannies or problems with them LIARS? [I think in general that the internet posts from people whose warranty claims were denied do not fairly indicate the level of abuse of their cars]. But you have 100% faith in your Nissan friend? [Not true. I too am concerned and a bit pissed with Nissan, and don't plan do do many more LCs] Is someone misguided?


Are you saying that a handful of people are causing all of this? As the boys over at Nagtroc have.. [Yes, that is what I am saying]

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