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Old 12-04-2008, 12:25 PM #2078  
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Originally Posted by chrisn View Post
Anybody with any car can order up a stupid alignment. Not sure why this is GT-R related

Are you that uptight about defending the GT-R? The tires are GT-R tires, how is that not GT-R related?

Did I give any fault to the car? Goodness dude............


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Originally Posted by chrisn View Post
That's silly. The feature delete is a simply firmware change, costing a few thousand dollars. BMW did the same think in the E60 M5 (no LC in the U.S.). In fact, when BMW introduced the stick-shift version of the E60 M5, the U.S. version did not even allow you to turn DSC (PSM) off! There was an uproar, so BMW allowed for DSC off, but electronically limits TQ in 1st and 2nd.

Nissan isn't only manuf trying to save people from themselves in the U.S. market where no one wants to face consequences of their abuse.

If GT-R Tranny breaks without an LC or VDC off, then it is covered under warranty. Those storiess have also been rare and mysteriously have stopped-- despite a doubling of the cars on the street since the first reports.
And why did BMW do this? Because several hundred BMW enthusiasts were outraged because BMW advertised the LC for the US and then tried to delete it. And a similar situation for he stick shift. BMW didnt even want to make one so they made it watered down so no one would want it and they got another uproar for lots of people so they went ahead and made it.

It was NOT because of failures a key difference with Nissan. And also NOT because of only isolated incidences of complaints, which is similar to Nissan. When you get so many complaints, you had better respond!

Not to mention there are tuners saying the unit is weak and have heard of instances of cracked tranny cases.

Face it, this is more wisespread than you're willing to admit. Manufacturers dont change their product without sufficient reason. PERIOD Nissan felt the car was ok for Launch control after 5 years of developement and with a year the customer base has decided otherwise. And not just 4 or 5 of them
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The GT-R is harder to drift than a 997 TT or 997 GT3, therefore if you are trying to drift, the GT-R will consequently get a faster lap. Normal apexing and driving not included.

See Evo and Car magazine for details.

Last edited by heavychevy; 12-04-2008 at 12:28 PM.