Why is 944 resale so poor?
#1
Why is 944 resale so poor?
I don't quite understand why a clean 944 only fetches under 6k. Compare to a e30 m3, a 944 had a similar original msrp, performance. However, the m3 sells 3-4x more in today's market.
Is it because 944 is less reliable? More expensive to repair? Or perhaps too many were sold based on a much linger production life?
I think a late model 944 or 968 is an awesome value. Just trying to understand the market.
Is it because 944 is less reliable? More expensive to repair? Or perhaps too many were sold based on a much linger production life?
I think a late model 944 or 968 is an awesome value. Just trying to understand the market.
#3
The E30's sole purpose in life, was Motorsports. Much more involved in motorsports overall. Motorsports is what makes cars value so high. Look at any car ever produced, especially those that sell more than what they did new. 9/10 times they were somehow some way involved in motorsports and faired well. 300SL, M3, Ford GT, any F40, 427 Vette, Shelby GT's, etc etc. The 944 was just another Porsche in the lineup to fill.
#4
Spec: I don't thing so as Porsche 944 had have Porsche Cup Series as well as it was 150 Porsche Turbo Cup produced so it keep Porsche heritage.
Problem is that 924 comes with cooperation with VW and even when 944 is 100% Porsche car still remain 924 IMO
Problem is that 924 comes with cooperation with VW and even when 944 is 100% Porsche car still remain 924 IMO
#5
the 944 was an ugly porsche, let's be honest now. Also very expensive to maintain while the m3 was all Motorsports/fun. Also having M3 in production now keeps the namesake alive and people who what it is. 944 has faded into darkness.
#6
A bit surprised by the comments on 944's aesthetics. I would have never guessed looks as the problem.
I have always love 944, especially in S2 and Turbo forms. They actually look just as good as the 964 to my eyes.
http://cimbeon.com/porsche-944.html
I have always love 944, especially in S2 and Turbo forms. They actually look just as good as the 964 to my eyes.
http://cimbeon.com/porsche-944.html
#7
I own both an`89 951S and a 2002 M3. Despite the added 58 HP of the M3, my 951 outperforms the newer Bimmer on the track thru the corners, straightaway a different story. Both great cars, 944`s need more respect.
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#8
I understand the allure of an E30 M3 and rarity of a good condition one. I think perhaps 944 has so many variants since mid 80's to 90's that drives prices lower.
#9
Man no 944 love around here. Created an account to shed some light on them. And to look for car meets in NorCal.
The N/A 944's to today's standards are WAY under-powered despite having a 2.5L. The aftermarket is slim and its difficult and expensive to modify for good power. A heavily modified N/A would only get up to 200bhp. Problems have arisen in these cars because they were 20 years old at one point, were neglected and sold for cheap. Those who bought the "cheap" Porsche made it worse by further neglect. They were definitely a hot item when they came out. As much as a year and half waitlist and up to 3k (early 80's) in price markups. Almost every N/A out there has several problems and has sat at one point or another. (With proper maintenance, there are 944s with 300k+) The lack of power kind of kills the intrigue though.
The Turbos however, are the ones with value. Bottom line problematic Turbos go for about 5-6K. Good examples reach up to 15K. The 944 actually competed in Le Mans for Porsche before they made it a production car. The 944 from the first N/As to the late turbos are one of the best handling production cars in history and turbos still beat most cars on a track today. Bang for your buck, 944 turbo is hands down one of the best. 220bhp stock and has a good aftermarket.
944 S2 has the 16valve 210hp N/A engine and is in some eyes, better than a turbo because of the even powerband.
968 are still expensive and had the most powerful 4cyl ever made in a production car when it was released. Also V-tech? Porsche invented it (VarioCam) and debuted it in the 968 before Honda did.
I love the styling of the 944 and in fact the 924/944 are the reason why Porsche is still around. Without these cars, Porsche would have been bankrupt in the early 80s. Call it what you want "poor mans Porsche" "engine in front isnt a Porsche" blah blah blah. Get in a nice turbo and drive it. You won't be disappointed. For entry like the E30. 944 is on par IMO.
Cheers!
The N/A 944's to today's standards are WAY under-powered despite having a 2.5L. The aftermarket is slim and its difficult and expensive to modify for good power. A heavily modified N/A would only get up to 200bhp. Problems have arisen in these cars because they were 20 years old at one point, were neglected and sold for cheap. Those who bought the "cheap" Porsche made it worse by further neglect. They were definitely a hot item when they came out. As much as a year and half waitlist and up to 3k (early 80's) in price markups. Almost every N/A out there has several problems and has sat at one point or another. (With proper maintenance, there are 944s with 300k+) The lack of power kind of kills the intrigue though.
The Turbos however, are the ones with value. Bottom line problematic Turbos go for about 5-6K. Good examples reach up to 15K. The 944 actually competed in Le Mans for Porsche before they made it a production car. The 944 from the first N/As to the late turbos are one of the best handling production cars in history and turbos still beat most cars on a track today. Bang for your buck, 944 turbo is hands down one of the best. 220bhp stock and has a good aftermarket.
944 S2 has the 16valve 210hp N/A engine and is in some eyes, better than a turbo because of the even powerband.
968 are still expensive and had the most powerful 4cyl ever made in a production car when it was released. Also V-tech? Porsche invented it (VarioCam) and debuted it in the 968 before Honda did.
I love the styling of the 944 and in fact the 924/944 are the reason why Porsche is still around. Without these cars, Porsche would have been bankrupt in the early 80s. Call it what you want "poor mans Porsche" "engine in front isnt a Porsche" blah blah blah. Get in a nice turbo and drive it. You won't be disappointed. For entry like the E30. 944 is on par IMO.
Cheers!
Last edited by Winter44; 03-21-2013 at 10:28 PM. Reason: grammar
#10
A bit surprised by the comments on 944's aesthetics. I would have never guessed looks as the problem.
I have always love 944, especially in S2 and Turbo forms. They actually look just as good as the 964 to my eyes.
http://cimbeon.com/porsche-944.html
I have always love 944, especially in S2 and Turbo forms. They actually look just as good as the 964 to my eyes.
http://cimbeon.com/porsche-944.html
#14
my s2 has 0-60 of 7sec. hardly fast car.
i think turbo is about 6.8s, turbo s is probly faster yet.
i didn't buy the car for the speed... it has good looks and it's was cheap with solid built quality.