991 PSE Install - Definitive list of Parts and Prices
#46
Ok, I'm giving up on trying to get the dealer to install the parts op posted. Too much resistance... However they have offered to install the PSE kit at a very resonable price if I buy it somewhere else.
Thought about getting the Kline or the awe switch path which they also said they'd install and program the switch but there are concerns about potential damage caused by non factory parts that could screw up the warranty.
What's the best price out there in the PSE kit?
Thought about getting the Kline or the awe switch path which they also said they'd install and program the switch but there are concerns about potential damage caused by non factory parts that could screw up the warranty.
What's the best price out there in the PSE kit?
#47
Ok, I'm giving up on trying to get the dealer to install the parts op posted. Too much resistance... However they have offered to install the PSE kit at a very resonable price if I buy it somewhere else.
Thought about getting the Kline or the awe switch path which they also said they'd install and program the switch but there are concerns about potential damage caused by non factory parts that could screw up the warranty.
What's the best price out there in the PSE kit?
Thought about getting the Kline or the awe switch path which they also said they'd install and program the switch but there are concerns about potential damage caused by non factory parts that could screw up the warranty.
What's the best price out there in the PSE kit?
As for your second comment about "potential damage caused by non-factory parts that could screw up the warranty" : What? Swapping the exhaust center muffler for non OEM is a risk to warranty? In what way? If your dealer (the one that is resisting installation of factory parts!) is telling you this they are full of $h1t! I don't recall ever coming across a situation where someone has voided their warranty due to install of a cat-back exhaust, different muffler, or similar. Headers, cams, etc. sure. But a direct bolt-on exhaust? You've got to be kidding me! The dealer / service dept would have to prove that your aftermarket parts were the cause of the failure (whatever that might be) to void a warranty claim. And just what claims might be voided by an exhaust?
Anyways, also consider (and read the DIYs) that other than programming the PSE switch (and clearing the logs), even the moderately skilled wrench can install the center muffler and even the center console switch box on their own!
Good luck, and keep us posted. By the way, mind listing what dealer this was that resisted installing factory parts so that I can avoid them?
#48
PSE parts have been "on sale". We have a launch 991 C2s cab and I just had the kit installed for a pre-tax total of just under $3,300 parts and labor including the new chrome tips that I wanted anyway.
My dealer in the Seattle area has a great service group and is very PCA member friendly.
My dealer in the Seattle area has a great service group and is very PCA member friendly.
#49
Wow -- Your P-car dealer is resisting installation of P-car parts??? You need to find a different dealer IMO. Read-up on the installation performed by numerous others on this board. It is a low-risk, simple / straightforward install even for the DIY'er.
As for your second comment about "potential damage caused by non-factory parts that could screw up the warranty" : What? Swapping the exhaust center muffler for non OEM is a risk to warranty? In what way? If your dealer (the one that is resisting installation of factory parts!) is telling you this they are full of $h1t! I don't recall ever coming across a situation where someone has voided their warranty due to install of a cat-back exhaust, different muffler, or similar. Headers, cams, etc. sure. But a direct bolt-on exhaust? You've got to be kidding me! The dealer / service dept would have to prove that your aftermarket parts were the cause of the failure (whatever that might be) to void a warranty claim. And just what claims might be voided by an exhaust?
Anyways, also consider (and read the DIYs) that other than programming the PSE switch (and clearing the logs), even the moderately skilled wrench can install the center muffler and even the center console switch box on their own!
Good luck, and keep us posted. By the way, mind listing what dealer this was that resisted installing factory parts so that I can avoid them?
As for your second comment about "potential damage caused by non-factory parts that could screw up the warranty" : What? Swapping the exhaust center muffler for non OEM is a risk to warranty? In what way? If your dealer (the one that is resisting installation of factory parts!) is telling you this they are full of $h1t! I don't recall ever coming across a situation where someone has voided their warranty due to install of a cat-back exhaust, different muffler, or similar. Headers, cams, etc. sure. But a direct bolt-on exhaust? You've got to be kidding me! The dealer / service dept would have to prove that your aftermarket parts were the cause of the failure (whatever that might be) to void a warranty claim. And just what claims might be voided by an exhaust?
Anyways, also consider (and read the DIYs) that other than programming the PSE switch (and clearing the logs), even the moderately skilled wrench can install the center muffler and even the center console switch box on their own!
Good luck, and keep us posted. By the way, mind listing what dealer this was that resisted installing factory parts so that I can avoid them?
These guys are willing to help me, they just aren't progressive enough to understand. I get that.
Believe me, id love to save the $$$ but sometimes it just isn't worth the fight.
Thanks for your input though!!
#50
i understand why there are so many threads on exhaust. there are too many options!!!
im to the point of making the decision.
the options as i seem them:
Has anyone dyno'd a non-pse car before and after adding PSE? do any of the above add a discernible amount more horsepower to justify the $ spread?
My dealer has agreed to install and program whatever I get.
Your comments are appreciated and I will post the outcome with vids etc...
im to the point of making the decision.
the options as i seem them:
- adding PSE and ultimately an X pipe
- AWE switch path with the PSE button
- Kline iconel with the PSE button
Has anyone dyno'd a non-pse car before and after adding PSE? do any of the above add a discernible amount more horsepower to justify the $ spread?
My dealer has agreed to install and program whatever I get.
Your comments are appreciated and I will post the outcome with vids etc...
#51
For anyone interested, I recently got a quote for the parts listed for a 991S and the total came to $1,435.20. I'm shopping around a few dealers/distributors to see if I can beat that price.
For the muffler part, I assume the one we want is the one listed under the part number provided as "w/sports exhaust"!
For the muffler part, I assume the one we want is the one listed under the part number provided as "w/sports exhaust"!
Last edited by bents; 07-07-2015 at 10:04 AM.
#52
Since someone else revived this thread, I just picked up the PSE Exhaust for my 3.4 Carrera (non-S) and this is what came in the box for those that want individual P/Ns:
991.044.200.03 - <---- THIS IS THE P/N TO ORDER THE ENTIRE SET (USA)
991.613.957.07DML - Control Switch Panel
991.111.437.07 - center muffler
991.111.321.03 - side muffler
991.111.322.03 - side muffler
991.111.481.01 - exhaust bands (clamps) x2
991.111.492.00 - hose/line x2
991.612.905.00 - wire harness for control valve
997.111.520.00 - exhaust clamping sleeves x2
991.111.482.00 - exhaust gaskets x2
948.111.126.00 - connecting piece (90 degree elbow fitting)
900.910.003.03 - Hexagon Nut M8 x6
7PP.906.283 - Change over valve (with fresh air supply)
7PP.906.270 - Change over valve (without fresh air supply)
06E.133.794 - t-fitting x2
900.918.005.40 - Tekalan Line (vacuum line)
991.111.491.00 - vacuum line 80mm steel flex
991.111.488.00 - Holder
999.239.037.40 - Hose 50mm
999.239.045.40 - Hose 60mm
N.104.355.01 - Collar Nuts x8
WHT.007.691 - (dont recall what this was)
991.111.465.03 - tail pipes
991.111.466.03 - tail pipes
Hope this helps clear any confusion since there isn't alot of information on the specifics of this kit (particularly for the 3.4 guys)
991.044.200.03 - <---- THIS IS THE P/N TO ORDER THE ENTIRE SET (USA)
991.613.957.07DML - Control Switch Panel
991.111.437.07 - center muffler
991.111.321.03 - side muffler
991.111.322.03 - side muffler
991.111.481.01 - exhaust bands (clamps) x2
991.111.492.00 - hose/line x2
991.612.905.00 - wire harness for control valve
997.111.520.00 - exhaust clamping sleeves x2
991.111.482.00 - exhaust gaskets x2
948.111.126.00 - connecting piece (90 degree elbow fitting)
900.910.003.03 - Hexagon Nut M8 x6
7PP.906.283 - Change over valve (with fresh air supply)
7PP.906.270 - Change over valve (without fresh air supply)
06E.133.794 - t-fitting x2
900.918.005.40 - Tekalan Line (vacuum line)
991.111.491.00 - vacuum line 80mm steel flex
991.111.488.00 - Holder
999.239.037.40 - Hose 50mm
999.239.045.40 - Hose 60mm
N.104.355.01 - Collar Nuts x8
WHT.007.691 - (dont recall what this was)
991.111.465.03 - tail pipes
991.111.466.03 - tail pipes
Hope this helps clear any confusion since there isn't alot of information on the specifics of this kit (particularly for the 3.4 guys)
Last edited by Antics22; 07-09-2015 at 12:09 PM.
#53
I have a 13 C4S with the chrome upgraded exhaust tips. I see SunCoast have those tips not compatible with the PSE. Is replacing the center muffler just that simple as bolt on and off? Any other parts needed or do I need to replace those tips too?
#54
Going through process now in Northern NJ. The closest I'm getting is $1200 on the install (as high as $1800). Where are most of you ordering parts? Dealer said they would try to match online price. Their price just for parts was more than double at $2900.
#55
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU991PSE.html
Call Luke @ Sunset Porsche Parts in Oregon too for a quote.
Luke Rogers
Sunset Porsche Parts
Toll Free: 800.346.0182
Direct: 503.726.2246
LukeRogers@sunsetimports.com
#57
South Jersey dealer will do it for $900 but I don't want to drive 1.5 hrs to save $300. I'm waiting on my dealer to respond to the new information.
Based on the videos and discussion on this forum, I'm going to do the PSE wiring/programming with the fabspeed xpipe. I definitely want something louder at lower rpms.
Thanks for the help, and I'll keep you all updated.
Based on the videos and discussion on this forum, I'm going to do the PSE wiring/programming with the fabspeed xpipe. I definitely want something louder at lower rpms.
Thanks for the help, and I'll keep you all updated.
#58
If you have an "S", these are the parts you need to add PSE. This is ONLY to control the valves. You can add AWE, or any other system. The only thing that will change is the first item, based on your vehicle's config.
#59
So you only need one of the 99111149200 vacuum hoses? I should be good just based on your invoice for adding PSE function to a valvetronic Fabspeed x pipe right?
Thanks
#60
what did you pay in labor if you don't mind? Is it any cheaper than doing the PSE install with the OEM center muffler?
Because the fabspeed is a bolt on replacement, I think it should be the same price
Because the fabspeed is a bolt on replacement, I think it should be the same price