I find it crazy to believe the carrera s will have 520 hp. That's basically the current turbo, just RWD. Can only RWD even handle that ?

In this case the 911 turbo would go to a 4.0 liter engine. Turbo s goes away.

 

Did this spreadsheet:





Even with a 50 HP gain in the base - Porsche is playing catchup with Chevy. Porsche has to defend the "Turbo" against the competition for sure. This will drag up HP ratings for the other models.

 

What they said...

 

The big thing is that unless they planned for it, the structure and power train will have to be beefed up and that will add more weight. I never could figure out why Porsche can't compete with Chevy for weight. The stiffness of the C6 was better than the 997. And there are more creature comforts. And bigger torque required bigger / weightier transmissions. Porsche should be saving weight on transmissions. On the other hand, the Porsche drives a lot better but the vettes do pretty good on the circuit.

ChuckJ

 

Something is up because you wouldn't normally see a 991 GTS model for another 3 years. The 991.2 is going offer something significantly different.

 

No question that Porsche will have turbo charging in the Carrera models due to government fuel efficiency mandates, but expect a commensurate increase in price for performance gains. Maybe they will be available in mid-2015, but my guess is a year later. Thus, existing NA Carrera after-market values may not plumet if the price umbrella that Porsche has always provided is any guide. Yes, Porsche needs to up the HP game (even for the 918), but given the efficiency with which Porsche's put the power down HP increasee may not be quite as high as the OP's link suggests. My bet is that the next big change in what is now the only 911 turbo will be a hybrid that puts out big torque and HP gains. I would not dismiss the 700 hp that journalists have posted. A mid-2015 991.2 is likely, but with mostly electronic tweeks to the engine and maybe the PDK mapping and HP gains of 5-10% at most. Do not forget that the 991 Turbo and Turbo S straight-line out-accelerate almost everything up to about 80 mph by a lot. On the track the turbos are monsters and are still perfectly usable daily drivers, which is very uncommon, if not unique. Oh yes, there are back seats, which are unique, especially if one wants to take their dog with them. That is one reason that I got a 991 TTS rather than a McLaren or Ferrari. The GTR was not in consideration by me, although it is also a monster on the track.

 

Well put!!

You describe everything I felt last week on a road trip to Germany, driving Autobahn and The Ring. My 350 hp were super happy the whole week, gave me new lap records and the feeling of the car is just special special!
309 km/h on the way home, downhill yes but fantastic fun:-)

On my last lap a 600 hp Mantay GT2 were chasing me, skilled driver also. Never catched me. The Carrera with the right specs, true "race car ". Few cars are made like this.

A base Carrera is a beast

 

For those who think Porsche is underpowered, try it on a track with the AMG's and BMW's. Also, anyone who thinks that the 991 TTS needs more power should see if they can handle a bone stock TTS or TT. Porsche puts the power down better than anything close to its various price points. R&T just ranked the Cayman below the M4 and Stingray Z51, but allowed that it was a better car for regular use, not just track contests. They made a big deal about the power differences. Does anybody really want to drag race on public roads? I routinely ignore the inevitable challenges on the street when I drive my TTS. Even when they are from Lambos, AMG's, McLarens and GTR's.

 

This. From what I was told yesterday at the dealer based on what they heard recently (possibly dealer meeting) the 991.2 S model will not have more power than the 991 GTS. We'll see I guess.

 

Completely off Topic but do you have pics of that Jeep you own you can show me?? I have a 12 AEV wrangler on 35's lifted with bumpers and your sig looks insane lol

 

Could that be because the dealer wants to continue to be able to sell current 991's and GTS until the new model arrives? It would be hard for him to move current models if they came out and said the 991.2S or whatever it will be called, is going to have 475-500 HP.

 

Sure, haha. Pics are pre-motor swap, FYI (being wrapped up soon). Can't lose with 42's! Axles are Currie RJ FF 70's F/R.

 

0-60 in 3.8 seconds (991GTS by Porsche's conservative measure) or 3.5 seconds (991S by C&D) and does not sound to me like a car lacking in HP or torque.

 

OMG I'm in love lol Ok I'll stop before they get pissed at us derailing this thread. Sick Jeep though!!!

 

"But what if I want to race a GT-R on Wilshire Blvd when I drive home from work?! Everyone will laugh when I lose.

Porsche should have more horsepowers so we don't, like, lose."