Next Generation 911
#16
LOL, right on. The throttle is quite responsive in the TT (you move as soon as you push the throttle down), but there is a very slight delay as the turbos spool up, and then you take off like in a rocket ship. The acceleration can be pretty violent.
#17
Actually - My 2015 was being built in early June of 2014. It was delivered at the end of July.
#18
right on, right on, right on, .....
#19
I have a c4s and a PTT. The PTT has a very small if at all lag then great power. The lag is just that it only excelerates better than 99% of everything else.
The c4s needs a lot more rpm but comes on really strong ... And the sound is awesome.
I have not done many turbos but the PTT is so great I wish I would have tried a CTT before buying my 911. Please don't tell my wife.
The c4s needs a lot more rpm but comes on really strong ... And the sound is awesome.
I have not done many turbos but the PTT is so great I wish I would have tried a CTT before buying my 911. Please don't tell my wife.
#20
While I love the torque of a turbo engine, they usually have much lower redlines than a naturally aspirated engine. I enjoy revving out my engine and listening to it behind me. I fear that this experience will be missed in the new car. However, this is the way of the car world! Progress!?
#21
While I love the torque of a turbo engine, they usually have much lower redlines than a naturally aspirated engine. I enjoy revving out my engine and listening to it behind me. I fear that this experience will be missed in the new car. However, this is the way of the car world! Progress!?
#22
Turbo cars also tend to make the power (torque) down low in the rev range, while naturally aspirated cars tend to make the power (horsepower) up higher in the rev range. We all think we want that engine that screams towards the redline, but the way most of us drive in real life we want strong lowdown power with just the touch of the throttle. I don't mind turbo cars (I've had two) but I take issue with the reason behind making the entire 991 range turbo powered. It's to meet fuel economy standards, not to improve driving dynamics. If it were to improve driving performance Porsche would have done it long ago. It's being motivated by the wrong thing. Of course Porsche marketing will spin it as the natural evolution of the 911, but it's not something Porsche would have done if it weren't for regulations.
BTW, is it true every new BMW has a turbo engine these days?
BTW, is it true every new BMW has a turbo engine these days?
#24
No doubt FI cars are very powerful - the issue is the linearity of throttle response, as other posters have mentioned. The "wait a sec, then blast off" feeling is fun for the first month, then it gets old. Experienced performance drivers want CONTROL - that's where a linear throttle is key. For momentum management, throttle steer etc etc.
There is great potential in hybrids in terms of using the electric motor torque to generate a pulse of power just as a turbo spools up and delivers its boost -- thereby synthesizing a linear throttle from low engine revs -- so actually the future holds great promise as e-motors are more frequently mated with high boost turbo engines. Right now its only in super high end cars - Porsche 918, McLaren P1, new NSX (if they do it right). But there is great potential in this.
There is great potential in hybrids in terms of using the electric motor torque to generate a pulse of power just as a turbo spools up and delivers its boost -- thereby synthesizing a linear throttle from low engine revs -- so actually the future holds great promise as e-motors are more frequently mated with high boost turbo engines. Right now its only in super high end cars - Porsche 918, McLaren P1, new NSX (if they do it right). But there is great potential in this.
Last edited by golfnutintib; 01-17-2015 at 02:07 PM.
#26
Turbo cars also tend to make the power (torque) down low in the rev range, while naturally aspirated cars tend to make the power (horsepower) up higher in the rev range. We all think we want that engine that screams towards the redline, but the way most of us drive in real life we want strong lowdown power with just the touch of the throttle. I don't mind turbo cars (I've had two) but I take issue with the reason behind making the entire 991 range turbo powered. It's to meet fuel economy standards, not to improve driving dynamics. If it were to improve driving performance Porsche would have done it long ago. It's being motivated by the wrong thing. Of course Porsche marketing will spin it as the natural evolution of the 911, but it's not something Porsche would have done if it weren't for regulations.
BTW, is it true every new BMW has a turbo engine these days?
BTW, is it true every new BMW has a turbo engine these days?
#27
Excellent. So my 2014 991 3.4 shall soon be as valuable as 997.2 GT3 4.0.
#29
For as long as humans have roamed the earth, we have managed to invent the car and wanted to kill it off within 100 years.
The fear mongers will have us living in caves again in the next 100 years.
Unbelievable...
The fear mongers will have us living in caves again in the next 100 years.
Unbelievable...
#30
While I love the torque of a turbo engine, they usually have much lower redlines than a naturally aspirated engine. I enjoy revving out my engine and listening to it behind me. I fear that this experience will be missed in the new car. However, this is the way of the car world! Progress!?