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993 Turbo This community is about the last air cooled twin turbocharged Porsche 911. Model year 1996 - 1997. Also inclusive in this forum is talk on the final 182 Porsche 911 Turbos built in 1997 known as the Turbo S.


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Nice Al. Looks like we have similar built. Will Todd be tuning yours as well.
BTW, the M6000 sound interesing, I'd like to hear more .
Thanks Vincent,

Protosport is a tuner in New Jersey, they use Todd's Protomotive products and his expertise for their 993TT builds. John and Paul at Protosport will do the new break-in (800 miles driving the new engine on no boost, then low boost, then full boost programs) and tuning. So when I go down to their shop next month to pick it up, I won't have to do any careful break-in driving-thank God.

The Noble "M600" is what I call my M400, now tuned to 573RWHP or about 630-640crankHP. The original "M400" designation comes from the car's power-to-weight ratio of 400HP per ton, since the car weighs about 2,300 pounds and puts out 425HP in stock form. Mine was totally revised by Seth Agnew who owns Technical Dimensions, a Porsche/Audi (and Noble) tuning shop in Jacksonville, Florida. It uses the stock Duratec V6 Roush spec. engine for the M400, but he floats the valves, letting it rev to over 8,000rpm's and trades the stock Garrett GT28R turbo's for GT28RS blowers. So 640HP in 2,300 pounds = 600 per ton, hence "M600." Here is a link from Noble Forums on the car:
http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=2376

Actually, right now the car is back in Indianapolis, Indiana at Greg Robb's Kit Car Company (he did the original install of the engine for me in 2006), where he is putting on a custom Moton suspension for the car and changing the rear control arms so I can put on wider rear tires-Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires at 345/30-18. That car is also due back next month. I can't wait for spring.

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Thats looking pretty impressive. Make sure we get lots of pics when its done.
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Thanks Vincent,

Protosport is a tuner in New Jersey, they use Todd's Protomotive products and his expertise for their 993TT builds. John and Paul at Protosport will do the new break-in (800 miles driving the new engine on no boost, then low boost, then full boost programs) and tuning. So when I go down to their shop next month to pick it up, I won't have to do any careful break-in driving-thank God.

The Noble "M600" is what I call my M400, now tuned to 573RWHP or about 630-640crankHP. The original "M400" designation comes from the car's power-to-weight ratio of 400HP per ton, since the car weighs about 2,300 pounds and puts out 425HP in stock form. Mine was totally revised by Seth Agnew who owns Technical Dimensions, a Porsche/Audi (and Noble) tuning shop in Jacksonville, Florida. It uses the stock Duratec V6 Roush spec. engine for the M400, but he floats the valves, letting it rev to over 8,000rpm's and trades the stock Garrett GT28R turbo's for GT28RS blowers. So 640HP in 2,300 pounds = 600 per ton, hence "M600." Here is a link from Noble Forums on the car:
http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=2376

Actually, right now the car is back in Indianapolis, Indiana at Greg Robb's Kit Car Company (he did the original install of the engine for me in 2006), where he is putting on a custom Moton suspension for the car and changing the rear control arms so I can put on wider rear tires-Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires at 345/30-18. That car is also due back next month. I can't wait for spring.

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That M600 is quite a built. Didn't realized the Roush engine can take 1.4 bar of boost. Ready to do some serious wheelies with the 345 tires on a 2400lbs chassis. What do think about the new Q1? Cheers.

Now onto our beloved 993TT....

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That M600 is quite a built. Didn't realized the Roush engine can take 1.4 bar of boost. Ready to do some serious wheelies with the 345 tires on a 2400lbs chassis. What do think about the new Q1? Cheers.

Now onto our beloved 993TT....

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Haha, well, on Yoko Advan AO48 295's in back last year the front tires (235's) did stay on the pavement. I'm thinking (hoping?) the Motons properly set will help this year with the extra rubber in back.

I view the Q1 as a tarted up M400 (lots of leather and more slick looking dashboard), but the press releases claim that aerodynamics, engine cooling and ECU changes are updated, as well. Since it's a relative of the Noble M12/M400, it will still be a great lightweight performance car. What attracted me to the Nobles in the first place was the raw setup-light weight, no PSM or TC, no ABS brakes, just power steering, no insulation-so one hears everything-the engine, BOV, tranny cooler motor, and all the road noise hitting the underbody and wheel wells-from pebbles and other assorted debris sitting on the asphalt. I have owned the car for two years and I still haven't programmed the Sony stereo system it came with-it's pointless.

But nothing will beat the 993TT! That is/will be my favorite car in the stable.

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This might be my favorite thread ever. Please keep the pictures coming. Magnificent display of automotive technology and soul; thanks!
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Thanks guys Ill post more pics once its done. This is only the start. Who said aircooled motors are boring?
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beautiful looking motor, deff have to post a vid or two once it's broken in
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Just went outside to take a peak at my engine bay, suddenly my 3.8 engine looks like the ugly cousin

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