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What technique and what gear are you using to get around oaktree? I've never made it out of the 160s on that back straight and I'm braking between the 2-1 marker before T14. So you guys are carrying 10mph more speed before going into rollercoaster... Please tell me what I'm doing wrong!
175mph is hauling the mail!!!
Mike
This is where you use a massive amount of trailbraking to rotate the car so your on the power EARLY brake at the 1 marker, trail the brakes, get that rotation at turn in, and your golden!
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brakes???? just take oak tree to the inside after you go off at southbend then you are on gas real early and oak tree is a non event!!!
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2008 GT2, 2002 996 GT2, 2007 GT3 RS 05 Ford Gt
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BECKER Cup Car, HP cup car, 997 GT3 SY, 997 GT3 Meteor,
997 TT, 996 GT3 white, 996 C4S, SL 55 AMG, 997, 951 turbo S, 930 Black on tan Cayanne white
brakes???? just take oak tree to the inside after you go off at southbend then you are on gas real early and oak tree is a non event!!!
or this, its really the same thing, with different wording and depends on how you like to come into the corner...but 930 man is lucky, hes got that rwd oversteer at lower speeds than the turbo(or 4wd) guys dont. I would say about this point, that alot of what people will say how to do things is right and fast, but most likely specific to their cars setup. Youll work your way through there!
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this i a very good point that a lot of poeople miss!!!
all these cars are so very different from mods to hp to driving style there is no clear cut answer how to do a specific turn or line around the track...
I gave a description about the track turn by turn I prefaced it with this how I get my 911 around the track... A 89 911, 07 tt or miata would all do different things... Hence my answer around oak tree.... I'm impressed shceng caught it
I worked with David Murry and spencer pompelli two years ago had both racers in my cup car one on sat. One Sunday you would not believe the different lines turn in points brake points ECT that were there ... Both in the same car.....
So lesson is I try to be careful when having a blanket statement about who to get around a turn with out entering all of the information into the senerio..
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2008 GT2, 2002 996 GT2, 2007 GT3 RS 05 Ford Gt
GONE to better Homes
BECKER Cup Car, HP cup car, 997 GT3 SY, 997 GT3 Meteor,
997 TT, 996 GT3 white, 996 C4S, SL 55 AMG, 997, 951 turbo S, 930 Black on tan Cayanne white
haha, it comes from the exp of people telling me X when Y is really how one does it in MY car. Its amazing what I have heard certain instructors say to people in cars where literally the opposite may be the best way. This is also why Porsche's racecars are "competitive" (ehem, but need to be MORE in gt2...) are because they are driven completely differently than cars with the classic ferwd setup and do so "well" (again, EHEM with gt2 class).
930man, if you dont mind NOT leaving Tom or me on the straights(well, really anywhere...hahah) in the dust, we would LOVE to follow you and see how to adj our lines a bit...as the experience you have at the track regardless of the car is worth a lot!
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haha, it comes from the exp of people telling me X when Y is really how one does it in MY car. Its amazing what I have heard certain instructors say to people in cars where literally the opposite may be the best way. This is also why Porsche's racecars are "competitive" (ehem, but need to be MORE in gt2...) are because they are driven completely differently than cars with the classic ferwd setup and do so "well" (again, EHEM with gt2 class).
930man, if you dont mind NOT leaving Tom or me on the straights(well, really anywhere...hahah) in the dust, we would LOVE to follow you and see how to adj our lines a bit...as the experience you have at the track regardless of the car is worth a lot!
+++1 teach us oh great one!!
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i think i am being set up here!!!!!!!!!!!! give my my cup or my gt3 i can promise a lot! this new GT2 i may be struggling a bit but I still know the line just may not be 10/10th the first weekend ... but be happy to let you ride of follow!!!!!!!!!!
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2008 GT2, 2002 996 GT2, 2007 GT3 RS 05 Ford Gt
GONE to better Homes
BECKER Cup Car, HP cup car, 997 GT3 SY, 997 GT3 Meteor,
997 TT, 996 GT3 white, 996 C4S, SL 55 AMG, 997, 951 turbo S, 930 Black on tan Cayanne white
this is acutually funny a buddy of mine sent it to me we were just playing around ... but i will say the man can drive! he gets everything out of a 930!
different perspective ...
oh yeah this not your average stock 930... i think it has lil bit of HP!
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2008 GT2, 2002 996 GT2, 2007 GT3 RS 05 Ford Gt
GONE to better Homes
BECKER Cup Car, HP cup car, 997 GT3 SY, 997 GT3 Meteor,
997 TT, 996 GT3 white, 996 C4S, SL 55 AMG, 997, 951 turbo S, 930 Black on tan Cayanne white
+1 for the line following 930 man, you learn ten times quicker following a good line than you will making your own.
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haha, it comes from the exp of people telling me X when Y is really how one does it in MY car. Its amazing what I have heard certain instructors say to people in cars where literally the opposite may be the best way. This is also why Porsche's racecars are "competitive" (ehem, but need to be MORE in gt2...) are because they are driven completely differently than cars with the classic ferwd setup and do so "well" (again, EHEM with gt2 class).
930man, if you dont mind NOT leaving Tom or me on the straights(well, really anywhere...hahah) in the dust, we would LOVE to follow you and see how to adj our lines a bit...as the experience you have at the track regardless of the car is worth a lot!
I agree, but it is difficult to judge from the passenger seat the real feel of the car and if you are even close to the limit, so instructing cant be very easy. But at the same time, your turn in and throttle application can vary GREATLY on just ONE car from just having more camber and stiffer sway bars, and not to mention tires, coilovers etc.
But most of driving is the DRIVER being able to feel and know these things so the instructor is only to give a baseline for the driver to go buy, general basic points and maybe some advice on what they do that is faster. But I have heard for myself instructors giving FAR too many ORDERS that may not apply to the car/driver they are instructing.
__________________ The GT-R is harder to drift than a 997 TT or 997 GT3, therefore if you are trying to drift, the GT-R will consequently get a faster lap. Normal apexing and driving not included.
Matt was kind enough to give me a hand with some brake bleeding issues I was having last April at the THSCC event, which was the first event I had ever taken this particular car to! He loaned me his jack stands as well!
Matt, As my buddy Jim McNemar say's, is one increadibly fast and increadibly cool dude!
well Jim has always been good at telling a "Funny" story!!!!!!!!!
thanks for the email address i will send him a note and pay him $50 bucks for the compliment!!!!!
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2008 GT2, 2002 996 GT2, 2007 GT3 RS 05 Ford Gt
GONE to better Homes
BECKER Cup Car, HP cup car, 997 GT3 SY, 997 GT3 Meteor,
997 TT, 996 GT3 white, 996 C4S, SL 55 AMG, 997, 951 turbo S, 930 Black on tan Cayanne white
i ened up with a garage for the event so come up to the garages you will find me there
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2008 GT2, 2002 996 GT2, 2007 GT3 RS 05 Ford Gt
GONE to better Homes
BECKER Cup Car, HP cup car, 997 GT3 SY, 997 GT3 Meteor,
997 TT, 996 GT3 white, 996 C4S, SL 55 AMG, 997, 951 turbo S, 930 Black on tan Cayanne white
i ened up with a garage for the event so come up to the garages you will find me there
How big is the "garage" ???
BTW Matt, I will let you know in 2 days, might do a little swap and run VIR with something different that's yellow hint hint
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BTW Matt, I will let you know in 2 days, might do a little swap and run VIR with something different that's yellow hint hint
you really want me to pass you then huh? (well, will when we are in the same groups)...haha, cause I cant touch that damn gt2...haha...but Ill be all over you in that pretty high revving car...haha
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