Upsolute damaged my engine

[dixie]

Hello,I want to warn all upsolute drivers because their program melted my exhaust valve,I asked a lot of people what could cause this and they all tell me it is the programming,I already have all my injectors tested and they were fine,I also contacted Upsolute and they asked me what program I was running from them but after that they won't answer my emails I only drove about 8000 miles with their flash and I have K16/24 so they wrote the program espessially for my car,boost was set at 1.1 bar. So all I can do is warn you to get rid off Upsolute..

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[torresmd]

That sucks.... scary too.

[MARKSKI@911tuning]

Sorry, but your assumption is just that ... an assumption....
I agree that a $700 program is not something I would EVER put in my car...
But to assume it's the ECu is somewhat farfetched.
Maybe yo drove too hard, too lean ... for too long.... maybe you had too much boost etc.... anything can happen... for any number of reasons....
markski

[iJeremy]

Originally Posted by MARKSKI

Sorry, but you assumption is is just that ... an assumption....
I agree that a $700 program is not something I would EVER put in my car...
But to assume it's the ECu is somewhat farfetched.
Maybe yo drove too hard, too lean ... for too long.... maybe you have too much boost etc.... anything can happen... for any number of reasons....
markski

Agreed, an assumption like that won't fly here. You will need some actual evidence as to why this is Upsolute's sole responsibility beyond what "other people have told you"

Also agree however that you should always do your research before any sort of mod to a car engineered to this degree.

[WOODTSTER]

I also agree that it is almost impossible to know if your program did that to your car.
What gas, what boost, what AFR's, blah, blah, blah...

I am very sorry that it happened to you and I have no knowledge of the quality of
an upsolute flash. There are so many other great programs out now.

Good luck!

MK

[Mikelly]

I ditched Upsolute (It came FREE on my car BTW) for the UMW tune. Here's the beautiful part of my reasoning... It had ZERO to do with Kevin. I was concerned from day one about the performance of that tune on those hybrids. The more independant research I did, the more I came back to the conclusion that the tune was not right for my application. I switched in January and haven't looked back.

Although I agree with the others, I still feel that a $700 tune for a Hybrid turbo app is nuts, especially on these motors... Datalogging with a program will tell you everything that concerned me when I pulled my files and looked at them... The "tune" they provide is a joke compared to the tune I now have...

Mike

[BlackBear]

I agree with all the comments.

Upsolute sucks. Anyone who has a computer with an internet connection should be able to do some research into their tuning methodology.

They do not dyno tune. They don't own a dyno. They do not data log. They have no dyno charts - REAL dyno charts.

Why anyone would think to use this crap to run a custom ZC hybrid turbo is beyond me.

[KINGS POWER]

...Sorry to hear about your misfortune. From what I know, the current rep is a company that was into building Hondas..much different that tuning a Porsche.

[carendt242]

i had a protomotive set-up 2 years ago and i bent & twisted some rods.

but it's near impossible to blame anyone - and i didn't - and i don't. it could have been bad gas, a faulty wastegate, the previous owner, me, or the gods...

it's part of the modification game - you have to do your homework and you have to accept the risks.

- chuck

[robertp]

Was this valve out of the #6 Cylinder?

[IBTrends Tom]

wow, that sucks

[jcb-memphis]

Sorry to see/hear that.

Guys, is that what an exhaust valve is supposed to look like? (not the chunk missing, the color/degree of depostis/etc. It looks pretty bad to me....but I am relatively naive and this may just be the norm.....)

Jeff

[MARKSKI@911tuning]

Originally Posted by carendt242

i had a protomotive set-up 2 years ago and i bent & twisted some rods.
- chuck

I know a proto car as well that we thought blew a gasket... too much boost with low octane fuel..... yet the final result was a failed Piston that had nothing to do with the tuning...

BTW, I recall your car had a Upsolute in it before you swithced over to proto... not sure if you bought it that way or not... but I do recall vividly Sharky mentioning something...
The irony is that we have cars running 650 to 720 rwhp on stock motors and they hold up... yet some cars with only 550 rwhp or less blow it up as well..
wierd...

markski

[gareeb]

Sorry to hear of your misfortune, I hope you get it fixed soon.

Perhaps you had other issues as others have stated.
Perhaps the software flash just magnified an existing problem to failure.

I ran the Upsolute 1.0 bar program for the standard k16 for 15k miles with no problems, before switching to Protomotive 700 kit for more power.

I had nothing but good experiences with them and it is a good bang for the buck if you only want to go so far powerwise.

[95RogueM3]

Originally Posted by MARKSKI

Maybe yo drove too hard, too lean ... for too long.... maybe you had too much boost etc

The software is responsible for the car's AFR. Therefore he couldn't "drive it too lean" without it being the software's fault.