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I'm new here and I've been doing a lot of reading up on this but haven't quite found my answer. I'm looking to get into a 996tt in the next year or so. What's everyone's thoughts about getting an x50 car and just doing a flash (thinking that 24/18g's will just be too much power for a DD) or getting a reg TT and upgrading to 16/16g's? What are the power differences, drivability, etc? I've read that the x50 also has an upgraded tranny, which sounds nice for any upgraded amounts of power. Thoughts? Thanks guys!
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1) There's no such thing as too much power for a Daily...as long as you take care to upgrade the other components to keep it reliable.
2) For the price difference these days, get the X-50 if you can. The K24's along with a flash will be quite fast and still be very reliable. You'll also need to upgrade the stock Diverter Valves ($250) as the stockers will begin to bleed boost above 0.9 Bar.
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A K16/16g hybrid is going to be faster for sure. There is plenty of info to show that, if that is what you want. K16/16g seems to be a very low cost upgrade.
here is a post that has good info:
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Originally Posted by Steve Theodore
This thread is becoming more and more useful for those of us new to the community. Could we now go on step further and classify the same list by "rough" cost and possibly expected awhp (or even rwhp) figures?
Okay I will take a stab at this one. I went with Crank HP #’s for now, there is so much variations between different Dynos. So this should give you a rough idea of what is needed.
K16/16g – 600 Crank HP Level 16 G Conversion with 1 bar wastegates: $1200 Flash cost: $1000 – $2500 Diverter valves: $150 - $300 5 Bar FPR: $150-$300 Most likely Clutch will go after some time, so Clutch: $1300- $1700, Labor: $1200 (Independent Shops)
Turbos Install: $500 (6 hrs at $80 /hr) K24/18g – 650 – 700 Crank HP Level (Injectors get you to the highest level) K24 Turbos used: $1700- $2000
18 G Conversion with 1 bar wastegates: $1200
60lb Injectors: $500 - $600, Install Labor: $ 800 (Motor Drop Down) Clutch: $1300- $1700, Labor: $1200 (Independent Shops)
Turbos Install: $500 ( 6 hrs at $80 /hr)
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An X-50 with a Flash, Exhaust, and Diverter Valves would be closer to 575 - even 600 depending on the flash and operating conditions. More torque too probably.
I'm sure that there are people on this forum that can be more exact than I can.
But it should be reliable and great for a Daily, if thats what you're using it for.
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[quote=Prche951;2413626]A K16/16g hybrid is going to be faster for sure. There is plenty of info to show that, if that is what you want. K16/16g seems to be a very low cost upgrade.
here is a post that has good info:[quote=Prche951;2413626]
K24 w/ flash exhaust and same upgrades as a 16/16 has longer legs and will pull on it, as well as trap higher. The 16/16 car might be "quicker" from stop light to stop light, but once both cars are in 3rd the K24 will pull.
[quote=LiNks;2413807][quote=Prche951;2413626]A K16/16g hybrid is going to be faster for sure. There is plenty of info to show that, if that is what you want. K16/16g seems to be a very low cost upgrade.
here is a post that has good info:
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K24 w/ flash exhaust and same upgrades as a 16/16 has longer legs and will pull on it, as well as trap higher. The 16/16 car might be "quicker" from stop light to stop light, but once both cars are in 3rd the K24 will pull.
info from real world on this forum shows different, so what do you base your info on
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An X-50 with a Flash, Exhaust, and Diverter Valves would be closer to 575 - even 600 depending on the flash and operating conditions. More torque too probably.
I'm sure that there are people on this forum that can be more exact than I can.
But it should be reliable and great for a Daily, if thats what you're using it for.
what experience do you base this on.
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Just the posts and research that I've seen on these forums.
Like I also said... there are others here that would be more accurate than my opinion.
yup, there was a thread that discussed all this and it was pretty much common knowledge that 16g was much faster than a K24. So if you find the research post it. The quote I gave was from the thread that discussed all this.
Danny has a K16/24 car that from what I have read is not as fast as a 16g would be, but I bet that car would pull on you. ImolaFem has a stock K16 with tune, so hercar would be another test. I have a K16 hybrid as well. We can compare notes. Actually this would be very good info for the board. There are no 16g's that I know of.
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the above is the link that I discussed. Like I said, we have at least 3 K16's that we can compare to your tuned X50.
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yup, there was a thread that discussed all this and it was pretty much common knowledge that 16g was much faster than a K24. So if you find the research post it. The quote I gave was from the thread that discussed all this.
Danny has a K16/24 car that from what I have read is not as fast as a 16g would be, but I bet that car would pull on you. ImolaFem has a stock K16 with tune, so hercar would be another test. I have a K16 hybrid as well. We can compare notes. Actually this would be very good info for the board. There are no 16g's that I know of.
Yeah, I know the Hybrid cars are faster. I though we were just talking about a regular K16.
BTW I love that Concord Impresario. Classy looking and great movement!
__________________ 2003 996TT X50 - 25K miles
3 Piece Speedline Corse Wheels
Agency Power Intake / Agency Power DV's / Agency Power Exhaust / Softronic Tune
35% tint / Clear Side Markers
do you mean X50 with only flash no exhaust?
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