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Well, Ben(Bmoores) and I just ran some 60-130's at the track. We weighed his car at 3340lbs and mine is 3320lbs on the same scale. He (Full Proto Kit with 24/20's 6 speed) was running 93 octane at 1.2 bar and I (24/18g's with Softronic Tip) was running Sunoco104 at 1.4 bar. The temp was 64 degrees with 90%+ humidity.
We also did a couple roll ons from 40mph in third gear to 150. His turbos spooled more quickly it seemed and jumped a car length on me. I finally reeled him in around 115 or so. BUT, he is on pump gas and I'm sure he will walk me pretty good at 1.4 and higher when he drops in the smelly stuff. I am very impressed with his pump gas 60-130. His car is serious!!! I'm going to enjoy this while I can. Thanks Ben.
Results today:
Ben: 7.06s
Todd: 6.33s
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0-60 3.03s 0-100 6.46s on PS2's Quarter Mile: 10.70s Best Trap 134.61 mph 60-130 MPH 6.33s 0-197.1 MPH "Texas Mile" October 2009
Not sure my shift times seemed a little off on the graphs. Normally I'm a bit quicker but its hard to say. All depends on how well Todd can drive a stick. That is with me on pump and him on race. Race vs. race would be a different story i suspect.
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2001 Turbo Protomotive 24/20's
Member of the "200 MPH Club"
Last edited by bmoores; 10-10-2009 at 04:04 PM.
Reason: my brain started working
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0-60 3.03s 0-100 6.46s on PS2's Quarter Mile: 10.70s Best Trap 134.61 mph 60-130 MPH 6.33s 0-197.1 MPH "Texas Mile" October 2009
How different do you think the result would be if Todd'ss car was a
6-speed instead of Tip?
I'd be dead. Ben is a way better driver than me on a 6 speed.
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0-60 3.03s 0-100 6.46s on PS2's Quarter Mile: 10.70s Best Trap 134.61 mph 60-130 MPH 6.33s 0-197.1 MPH "Texas Mile" October 2009
Very nice guys. I was gonna go out today, but didn't feel like putting DR's on. It was 60 here today. Hmmm, that Tippy Todd is getting too close...maybe tomorrow....
__________________ 03 996TT, 24/18G's, 58lb Injectors, FVD Sport Mufflers, Custom EPL Tune w/Meth Inj. 5.99 (60-130), Best ET-11.14, Best trap-133 Texas Mile 09: 195.024 in 27.4 sec (0-186 - 23.8 sec)
It's gonna take a miracle to break into the 5's. But I'm going to try.
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0-60 3.03s 0-100 6.46s on PS2's Quarter Mile: 10.70s Best Trap 134.61 mph 60-130 MPH 6.33s 0-197.1 MPH "Texas Mile" October 2009
For a point of reference, I ran a 7.1 on pump at 1.1 bars but the weather was 15 degrees colder, so your car is very strong.
That same day I ran my 5.79 at 1.5 bars. That is why I asked if you are tuned for C 16 because if you are you can run 1.5 bars safely and should run around a 5.7-5-8.
All this is speculation but I would be very pleased with how your car ran today.
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2002 Porsche GT2 with GT 30's Tuned by Protomotive. 60-130 Street Tire Champion Tx2K8 and Tx2K9.
2004 BMW Individual M3: BHS Supercharged Stage 2. 8.59 60-130
2009 Mercedes E350
2004 Porsche Cayenne TT.
For a point of reference, I ran a 7.1 on pump at 1.1 bars but the weather was 15 degrees colder, so your car is very strong.
That same day I ran my 5.79 at 1.5 bars. That is why I asked if you are tuned for C 16 because if you are you can run 1.5 bars safely and should run around a 5.7-5-8.
All this is speculation but I would be very pleased with how your car ran today.
+1
Knighton told me (and I believe Markski did too), the 24/20's love boost
1.5 or so and of course C16 and tune to match.
Another important point...Ben got the jump...were you brake boosting?
If that is the case that is HUGE. My car was much more laggy compared to your (Todds') car.
The big diff must be the full Proto intake and RSS plenum contributing to a much much faster spool up. I can't wait to get mine (plus 75 mm TB) installed.
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2002 Porsche GT2 with GT 30's Tuned by Protomotive. 60-130 Street Tire Champion Tx2K8 and Tx2K9.
2004 BMW Individual M3: BHS Supercharged Stage 2. 8.59 60-130
2009 Mercedes E350
2004 Porsche Cayenne TT.
For those of us who are a little slow(or who don't know ), please explain how you brake boost in a 60-130.
Brake boosting is: modulating the throttle and the brake simultaneously, in an effort to build some boost. When you let off the brake, you are already accelerating under (some) boost. VERY effective in roll racing.
__________________ 03 996TT, 24/18G's, 58lb Injectors, FVD Sport Mufflers, Custom EPL Tune w/Meth Inj. 5.99 (60-130), Best ET-11.14, Best trap-133 Texas Mile 09: 195.024 in 27.4 sec (0-186 - 23.8 sec)