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I like the carbon fibre also. Just curious as I am an audiophile freak as to what type of equipment Reus uses. While it is true 80 percent of the SQ is in the install, that other 20 percent is very expensive to get. What brand amps, brand sub, brand and type of tweeter, brands of mids, and do they use any processing.
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i'm confused what Reus does any different than anyone else? ... and this big hush hush keep it a secret crap doesn't cut it for me ... ? My local guy does a great job and can also do it stealth, I'm worried you guys are getting caught up in overpaying and marketing ... can someone with a knowledge base of install and equipment who has a Reus system explain?
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Originally posted by Doug H I like the carbon fibre also. Just curious as I am an audiophile freak as to what type of equipment Reus uses. While it is true 80 percent of the SQ is in the install, that other 20 percent is very expensive to get. What brand amps, brand sub, brand and type of tweeter, brands of mids, and do they use any processing.
Apparently what's so special about Reus is that the equipment they use were manufactured according to their own design: speakers, tweeters, subs, and even amps. They do not use any of the brand names out in the market...except for head units. When you go to their shop they'll give you a demonstration between their own speakers and any of the brand names: focal, mb quart...etc, and there's no comparison!
Originally posted by swordsman Apparently what's so special about Reus is that the equipment they use were manufactured according to their own design: speakers, tweeters, subs, and even amps. They do not use any of the brand names out in the market...except for head units. When you go to their shop they'll give you a demonstration between their own speakers and any of the brand names: focal, mb quart...etc, and there's no comparison!
If that's the case than I'm really impressed ... beyond my installer to design specifications for manufacturing ... Thanks!
Originally posted by luting_chen and one thing i like about it... is that they keep everything really tidy and clean...
no nasty wires and drilled holes etc... simply bolt on kit~~~
i just got my car back from reus as well... with some new things... will take pics later...
Post some pic Kevin...can't wait to see what kind of goodies you got this time!
Originally posted by swordsman Apparently what's so special about Reus is that the equipment they use were manufactured according to their own design: speakers, tweeters, subs, and even amps. They do not use any of the brand names out in the market...except for head units. When you go to their shop they'll give you a demonstration between their own speakers and any of the brand names: focal, mb quart...etc, and there's no comparison!
There are actually very few speaker manufacturers out there. Most companies don't actually make their own speakers. The drivers are usually made by another company to one company's specs. For instance, Dynaudio uses morrell drivers. Bostons are made by Swain or Vifa. The list goes on and on.
I use Scan speak stuff, some rainbow reference, and some morrel like Esotar series. The $ 3,500 F1 Alpine component speaker set uses the Scan Speaker tweater and maybe the revelator drivers I use in some of my stuff. The rainbow reference is in a league of its own, but for $ 6,000 for a set of 2 ways it should be.
During their demonstrations do they use low end MB Quart discus or reference series which sound like trash compared to MB Quart QSDs. The Utopias also sound much better than Focal Poly Kevlar and lower end stuff so comparisons could be a bit misleading unless you know exactly what is being compared. Maybe not have the focal or MB Quart demonstration speakers in perfectly sized, or baffled enclosures. Easy to make good stuff sound like trash if you wanted.
Amp wise, do you know if they use class A, a/b, D or ??? I pretty much just use McIntosh amps, but do have 2 Brax, a Human Reign and a simfoni.
Head units, I have used them all and still have two or three sitting around that costs over a grand each not being used. I now only use McIntosh as they are by farest the nicest, cleanest signal and make a huge difference.
Somebody makes their stuff. Was just curious who. Don't get me wrong, I know their stuff is great. I am just curious what they use.
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Originally posted by 2thfixr Just a personal opinion but.... the cf looks waaaaaaay better. It's just like Reus... they even matched the diagonal pattern on the CF to your existing trim.
not that my opinion matters, but I also think CF looks best. Either way - outstanding job!
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Originally posted by Doug H There are actually very few speaker manufacturers out there. Most companies don't actually make their own speakers. The drivers are usually made by another company to one company's specs. For instance, Dynaudio uses morrell drivers. Bostons are made by Swain or Vifa. The list goes on and on.
I use Scan speak stuff, some rainbow reference, and some morrel like Esotar series. The $ 3,500 F1 Alpine component speaker set uses the Scan Speaker tweater and maybe the revelator drivers I use in some of my stuff. The rainbow reference is in a league of its own, but for $ 6,000 for a set of 2 ways it should be.
During their demonstrations do they use low end MB Quart discus or reference series which sound like trash compared to MB Quart QSDs. The Utopias also sound much better than Focal Poly Kevlar and lower end stuff so comparisons could be a bit misleading unless you know exactly what is being compared. Maybe not have the focal or MB Quart demonstration speakers in perfectly sized, or baffled enclosures. Easy to make good stuff sound like trash if you wanted.
Amp wise, do you know if they use class A, a/b, D or ??? I pretty much just use McIntosh amps, but do have 2 Brax, a Human Reign and a simfoni.
Head units, I have used them all and still have two or three sitting around that costs over a grand each not being used. I now only use McIntosh as they are by farest the nicest, cleanest signal and make a huge difference.
Somebody makes their stuff. Was just curious who. Don't get me wrong, I know their stuff is great. I am just curious what they use.
You have a very good point about product comparison but I'm hardly the one qualified to make any intelligent response on this, so the best bet is for you to contact Reus directly: www.reusaudio.com and ask for Rick.
Not trying to open a can of worms. I was just interested in the guts of their system. I know they do a great job. I was a bit curious whether it product placement, install techniques or tricks or if they are using high end speaker drivers and amps. I can get some intense imaging and sound quality with conventional speaker placement and some processing, but I pay for it $$$ wise. I have read about their installs and they have great ideas to overcome the horrid natural accoustical properties the cabin of an automobile presents. I over come this with high end products and some processing. Seems like they use a mixture of good products and interesting placements.
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Originally posted by Doug H There are actually very few speaker manufacturers out there. Most companies don't actually make their own speakers. The drivers are usually made by another company to one company's specs. For instance, Dynaudio uses morrell drivers. Bostons are made by Swain or Vifa. The list goes on and on.
I use Scan speak stuff, some rainbow reference, and some morrel like Esotar series. The $ 3,500 F1 Alpine component speaker set uses the Scan Speaker tweater and maybe the revelator drivers I use in some of my stuff. The rainbow reference is in a league of its own, but for $ 6,000 for a set of 2 ways it should be.
During their demonstrations do they use low end MB Quart discus or reference series which sound like trash compared to MB Quart QSDs. The Utopias also sound much better than Focal Poly Kevlar and lower end stuff so comparisons could be a bit misleading unless you know exactly what is being compared. Maybe not have the focal or MB Quart demonstration speakers in perfectly sized, or baffled enclosures. Easy to make good stuff sound like trash if you wanted.
Amp wise, do you know if they use class A, a/b, D or ??? I pretty much just use McIntosh amps, but do have 2 Brax, a Human Reign and a simfoni.
Head units, I have used them all and still have two or three sitting around that costs over a grand each not being used. I now only use McIntosh as they are by farest the nicest, cleanest signal and make a huge difference.
Somebody makes their stuff. Was just curious who. Don't get me wrong, I know their stuff is great. I am just curious what they use.
I have been into car audio since the mid 80's. I had the opportunity to listen to a couple of consistent sound off winning vehicles that have been recognized as the best in their class. This is before people went crazy with fiberglass and motorized amp racks. I think that nowadays, people are more into the appearance of the installation versus sound quality. Neon this, motorized that and so on. Hands down, the two best cars that I have ever heard are Harry Kimura's Acura Legend and the Speakerworks Buick Grand National. This is mostly because of imaging and sonic accuracy. I am far from being what you would call an expert but I think my tastes are in line with yours. I am always looking for a car audio system that will duplicate the sound of a good high end home audio system. There is no way to really do that in a car. Especially in a car like the 996 where there is simply no room for enclosures or lots of equipment.
Obviously, car audio and home audio are two entirely different arenas. It sounds to me that you are on the extreme end of the home audiophile spectrum. That indicates to me that you are probably among the people who would truly appreciate the "Reus" sound more than anyone else.
The only way you will ever understand what Reus is all about is if you hear one of their systems. I could explain it to you till I am blue in the face but you will never appreciate what I am talking about until you sit in a car with the Reus system and close your eyes and listen. Distortion free, three dimensional imaging beyond your wildest expectations and enough headroom in the system to blow your doors off. The system can literally be turned up as loud as you can stand it without distorting.
Like I said, I have been into car audio since the mid 80's when I got my first car. Since then I have had all types of systems. Basic systems, complete off the wall systems, sealed enclosures, crazy bandpass encolsures etc etc.
I used to believe that the size of the amp, quality of the power, size of the magnet, type of voice coil etc etc made a huge difference. I used to believe that you needed a 1 farad stiffening cap to get the most out of extreme transients.... I used to believe that you needed 4 guage power cables and huge monster cable speaker cables etc etc. That all changed when I saw the Reus system.
The equipment is not exactly high end esoteric stuff. It is all built to Reus specs by a well known manufacturer. But that is the key. It is all built to Reus specs. I have a McIntosh amp but believe it or not it is driving my subwoofer. I insisted on getting it and paid a lot for it but Rick kind of tricked me when I got the system installed. When I heard it for the first time I said, "wow, that McIntosh amp sounds great!" Then Rick told me that he had his amp driving my main speakers and the McIntosh driving the sub. I told him to leave it the way it was because it sounded great. The moral of the story, you don't need a McIntosh amp for a system to sound great. When I went in to get my mid-bass driver upgrade, Rick gave me a demo of his tweeters vs MB Quart and Focal. It was a simple test but there was no comparison. I am not talking about his speakers being only marginally better. I am talking about a huge difference.
Basically... what I am trying to say is that you could discuss this issue endlessly. The only way to know what Reus is all about is to hear the system. It costs a lot more than anything else out there but then again nothing sounds like it. You could put all kinds of McIntosh amps, MB Quart, Focal speakers in your car but in the long run, if you sit and listen to the Reus system in my car, you will end up going to bed wondering how you could make your car sound like mine.
There is no hush hush secrecy about Reus. They simply do not choose to advertise agressively. They get most of their business through referrals. They are usually pretty busy so why advertise when you don't need to.
Rob is exactly right. I drove up to Long Island NY about a month ago and had him do my cab in a long day. Wow, a nice guy and the system is fantastic. I bought it sight unheard. He is so busy when I called him a week later he said he wasn't taking any more business until Sept. I had a friend of mine listen to the car and during the song he didn't say or express himself at all. Then he got out of my car and turned to me and said " that is the best stereo I have ever heard" . And this guy is a musician.
The only thing I don't like is the lousy ergonomics of the eclipse head unit. Also can't see it in the day at all. In a year or two I am sure they will fix this and I will have to get a new head unit.
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