Rear main seal leak?
#1
Rear main seal leak?
I was reading Excellence and their Market update section features Boxster and 996. In discussing the problems these cars face they mentioned that the RMS is a big problem for possibly 50-100% of the 996s! They go on to say that the RMS can be replaced so long as the crank assembly is still centered in the crankcase. Porsche has a gauge to measure( tool # 9699/1) if it is still centered and if so the RMS can be replaced, otherwise if the tool doesn't fit, the ENGINE SHOULD BE REPLACED. I like how they ran right through that part like it was a brake pad! I'm assuming there aren't too many of these going down or we'd hear about it big time. Anyone have RMS problems on their cars? Maybe this only applies to regular 996 engines?
#2
I haven't heard of it being a problem with the TT, just the NA 996. Also, it seems as though it afflicts the 6-speeds more than chicktronic (supposedly related to the weight of that honking great flywheel hanging off the crankshaft).
#4
It's much more common on m96/97 motors but not unheard of on m64's or derrivatives(996TT,GT3). I've seen it on a 996TTx50 and GT3 myself. It's a potential design flaw in any flat six with a clamshell style block that puts the greatest stress on the rear mainbearing, hence seal failure. Porsche has looked at several fixes, bigger seals, lighter flywheel, and even less counterweight on the crankshaft at that position.
There are a hell of a lot more NA m96/97 motors than GT3's and TT's, that's why you see it a lot more imo.
There are a hell of a lot more NA m96/97 motors than GT3's and TT's, that's why you see it a lot more imo.
#6
Originally Posted by Red Devil
I was reading Excellence and their Market update section features Boxster and 996. In discussing the problems these cars face they mentioned that the RMS is a big problem for possibly 50-100% of the 996s! They go on to say that the RMS can be replaced so long as the crank assembly is still centered in the crankcase. Porsche has a gauge to measure( tool # 9699/1) if it is still centered and if so the RMS can be replaced, otherwise if the tool doesn't fit, the ENGINE SHOULD BE REPLACED. I like how they ran right through that part like it was a brake pad! I'm assuming there aren't too many of these going down or we'd hear about it big time. Anyone have RMS problems on their cars? Maybe this only applies to regular 996 engines?
#7
As soon as they figure out a "cheaper" fix they stop replacing engines of course. The fix is probably as good as the cylinder-sleeve "fix" for the 98-99 Boxsters.
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#8
The problem was the tool they sent out to dealers was overly tight and 'over-read' alot of RMS as being loose tolerence when in fact they were within spec and just needed a seal replaced. They also now have a 4 stage grading system, 1- moist at tranny/engine junction visually, no drips on floor, 2-wet junction, minor drips on floor,3- wet junction significant leakage less than 1 qt/ 1000 miles, 4- overt leak with leakage exceding 1qt/1000 miles. They only consider engine swaps at stage 4 with a failed tolerance test now, that's why you seldom see a new engine for an RMS leak.
Last edited by TT Surgeon; 07-26-2006 at 11:58 PM.
#9
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
The problem was the tool they sent out to dealers was overly tight and 'over-read' alot of RMS as being loose tolerence when in fact they were within spec and just needed a seal replaced. They also now have a 4 stage grading system, 1- moist at tranny/engine junction visually, no drips on floor, 2-wet junction, minor drips on floor,3- wet junction significant leakage less than 1 qt/ 1000 miles, 4- overt leak with leakage exceding 1qt/1000 miles. They only consider engine swaps at stage 4 with a failed tolerance test now, that's why you seldom see a new engine for an RMS leak.
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