AMS Product Release: AMS Billet K16 Turbo Package *600WHP CAPABLE*

[Eric@AMS]

The AMS Porsche 996 K16 Billet turbo upgrades are the most advanced improvement you can make to your K16 based turbos. Using new aero design with extended tip technology, we replace the OEM compressor wheel with a larger CNC billet unit for higher flow and increased efficiency. The result is an incredibly quick spooling turbo that pulls hard all the way to redline. The AMS upgrade is completely bolt-on and fully compatible with all stock components and comes complete with upgraded 1 bar wastegate actuators to maintain optimum boost throughout the rev range. What does this all mean? By integrating this unique billet design we are able to keep the quick spool of the K16 turbo and vastly improve on power output. At comparable boost levels the AMS Billet K16 produces power on par with larger later spooling turbochargers. Estimated wheel horsepower output 475-500whp / 500-550 ft lbs of torque on pump gas 525-550whp / 575-600 ft-lbs of torque with optional AMS Fuel Upgrade Kit* 575-600whp / 650-675 ft lbs of torque on race gas* Designed to offer quick spool and a large amount of usable horsepower and torque, the AMS kit reaches all forms of racing and driving. The AMS Billet K16’s deliver on demand horsepower and torque for the road racer, street car, and plenty of raw power to those wanting a 10 second ¼ mile toy! Test Vehicle: 2003 Porsche 911 996TT Cross Titanium Exhaust AMS Test Pipes AMS K16 Billet Turbo Upgrade kit AMS Optional Fuel Upgrade Kit Test Results 585whp and 650 ft-lbs of torque (race gas/pump gas mix) 133 mph ¼ mile trap speed 191.6 mph in the standing mile Features New aero design with extended tip technology Larger 46mm inducer (stock is 40.6mm) billet wheel to for higher flow and increased efficiency Completely bolt-on and fully compatible with all stock components Maintain optimum boost throughout the rev range Produces power on par with larger later spooling turbochargers Kit includes AMS Billet K16 Turbochargers AMS upgraded 1 bar wastegate actuators 5 bar Fuel pressure regulator Turbo gasket set AMS/EPL custom Flash Options Fuel Upgrade kit including upgraded 72 lb injectors and upgraded custom tune ($999.95) Applications Porsche 911 996 Twin Turbo, X50 & GT2 Fits all USDM & European Models $4499.95 with core exchange $4999.95 with no core being sent in CLICK HERE TO ORDER! * AMS does recommend an upgraded clutch for those looking to run the fuel upgrade or those being tuned on race gas. 93 octane on SAE correction, about 21psi of boost (1.4 bar) MS109 Race Gas with SAE correction at 1.55 bar MS109 on STD correction factor K16 Billet turbo's, exhaust, injectors & race gas Vs. Stock (X50) For reference our 996tt in it's current form vs. a stock C5 Z06 Please PM or post with any questions

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[bmoores]

Insane Pricing! I get the feeling these upgrades will be flying out the door!

[AdamW81]

Is 1.4 bar not really pushing it on 93 octane? Do you have any numbers on meth?

[Steve Theodore]

I know I'm asking a bit much here, but do you have any pump gas readings with even less boost? Something like 1.1-1.2 bar? I am trying to visualize a "stock clutch maximizing" configuration for this kit, knowing it could be turned up later once the clutch upgrade is taken care of.

This is certainly the number one upgrade path for K16s (in my mind). Thanks a lot for your time and dedication to this project!

[Eric@AMS]

1.4 Bar on the tuning that EPL is providing us with is safe. We do live logging with Tony from EPL on our dyno so its like he is here with us tuning her in

No meth numbers as of yet

Eric

[Eric@AMS]

Originally Posted by Steve Theodore

I know I'm asking a bit much here, but do you have any pump gas readings with even less boost? Something like 1.1-1.2 bar? I am trying to visualize a "stock clutch maximizing" configuration for this kit, knowing it could be turned up later once the clutch upgrade is taken care of.

This is certainly the number one upgrade path for K16s (in my mind). Thanks a lot for your time and dedication to this project!

I do not but I will say we had no signs of slipping with our clutch at that 1.4 level we posted up. It wasn't until we started pushing it with larger injectors and race gas that we had any problems

[rafiki]

Eric

Can you pm me the price for just turbo upgrade (exchange)?

[John H.]

Originally Posted by bmoores

Insane Pricing! I get the feeling these upgrades will be flying out the door!

Insane as in $$$$? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the same size wheels on the hot/cold side with the same AR will produce the same output per given psi. The power seems inline any K16/16G turbo setup if it was boosted to 24psi. That's 6psi higher than other K16/16G dynos. Are the pump gas dynos on par with other K16/16Gs? 475-500whp.

John H

[EZ Cookin]

This looks very exciting. Might have to be my next mod!

[rafiki]

Originally Posted by John H.

Insane as in $$$$? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the same size wheels on the hot/cold side with the same AR will produce the same output per given psi. The power seems inline any K16/16G turbo setup if it was boosted to 24psi. That's 6psi higher than other K16/16G dynos. Are the pump gas dynos are on par with other K16/16Gs? 475-500whp.

John H

Agree with some of the above.I guess it's a fairness balancing act between rewarding innovation and getting the pricing right.

I'm in the market for a turbo upgrade and at the moment, this kit is priced in the same ball park as the proven K24/18 g setup??

It still sounds like a nice upgrade for K16's.

Just my opinion, but I can't see too many K24 cars upgrading to a K16 based setup. So, inevitably it's going to be compared to the K16/16G and one would have thought that pricing should be comparable.

As Steve T already mentioned, it would be nice to see how this kit on lower boost compares to the K16/16g setup.

Eric, congratulations on expanding the performance choice for the 996tt.One question I have: is there a way to control boost levels from inside the car?

[PorscheCt33]

Originally Posted by John H.

Insane as in $$$$? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the same size wheels on the hot/cold side with the same AR will produce the same output per given psi. The power seems inline any K16/16G turbo setup if it was boosted to 24psi. That's 6psi higher than other K16/16G dynos. Are the pump gas dynos on par with other K16/16Gs? 475-500whp.

John H

Seems like they're making quite a bit more than standard K16/16Gs to me....


475-500whp / 500-550 ft lbs of torque on pump gas
525-550whp / 575-600 ft-lbs of torque with optional AMS Fuel Upgrade Kit*

[alex55]

all the numbers are with the Cross Titanium Exhaust ?

can you run the stock exhaust or what hp would you put down if you don't change the exhaust ?! thanks !

[earl3]

Originally Posted by PorscheCt33

Seems like they're making quite a bit more than standard K16/16Gs to me....


475-500whp / 500-550 ft lbs of torque on pump gas
525-550whp / 575-600 ft-lbs of torque with optional AMS Fuel Upgrade Kit*

Sounds on par with 16g's on pump gas considering these are dynojet numbers. IIRC both the 16g and these billet wheels have ~46mm inducers so thats no surprise. Of course the billet wheels have the ETT and have blades that start earlier from the hub -things that will help greatly at higher pressure ratios and make it act like a bigger wheel.

At any rate, kudo to AMS for presenting another viable, super responsive option and backing it up with not only dynos, but 1/4mile and 1 mile traps as well.

[PorscheCt33]

The 16G compressor wheel is ancient technology that was built in the 80s by Mitsubishi. If we were all still running around in our single turbo CIS controlled 930s listening to motley crue, that'd be fine
The 16G was a great turbo and still is. But with new eras come new technology. I think AMS is just trying to offer a much more effecient option.

[PorscheCt33]

Originally Posted by rafiki

Agree with some of the above.I guess it's a fairness balancing act between rewarding innovation and getting the pricing right.

I'm in the market for a turbo upgrade and at the moment, this kit is priced in the same ball park as the proven K24/18 g setup??

It still sounds like a nice upgrade for K16's.

Just my opinion, but I can't see too many K24 cars upgrading to a K16 based setup. So, inevitably it's going to be compared to the K16/16G and one would have thought that pricing should be comparable.

As Steve T already mentioned, it would be nice to see how this kit on lower boost compares to the K16/16g setup.

Eric, congratulations on expanding the performance choice for the 996tt.One question I have: is there a way to control boost levels from inside the car?

I've heard through the grape vine that they are currently working on a Billet K24.