my 996 vs saab 900 spg

[ls911]

Originally Posted by bruceinmiami

nobody is pretending they're reliable. especially since we're talking 20 year old cars. but sexy never comes cheap.

Looks like a duck...an ugly one

[ls911]

Originally Posted by ls911

Looks like a duck...an ugly one

[newport996]

Yeah thats a GM designed one....Once they took over in the 90s the whole quality thing went WAAAAAY downhill....its funny, back in the 80s it was THE car to have....Way more prestige than a beemer....Performance was nice from my 16v Turbo....Fun car. When I sold my 87 with 250,000+ miles the only thing that was revealed by the PPI inspection was a $40 oil leak. Not bad for a car on its original engine.

Originally Posted by dcentric

I had a 2000 9-3 Convertible. I can say without hesitation that it was the worst car i've ever owned, period. I wouldn't go near another saab with a 100-foot clown pole. Sure, the power train was reasonably reliable, but everything else was crap. Once the warranty ran out it was an absolute nightmare. I almost paid someone to take it off my hands and even now breathe a sigh of relief at the fact that it is no longer in my possession.

Not to mention the turbo lag mixed with torque steer, combined with the rough ride.

[dcentric]

Originally Posted by ls911

[Jake Ok]

"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion".

Don't make ignorant comments before experiencing first hand.

[dcentric]

Well i can tell you from my first hand experience, that "strangeness" in the context of that quote must mean "crap build quality." I'm glad to be rid of that POS.

Originally Posted by Jake Ok

"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion".

Don't make ignorant comments before experiencing first hand.

[Jake Ok]

Originally Posted by dcentric

Well i can tell you from my first hand experience, that "strangeness" in the context of that quote must mean "crap build quality." I'm glad to be rid of that POS.

Sorry to hear about your experience. You may have gotten a lemond. This is my 4th Saab and my 3rd Viggen and never had a problem with them. I sold my first 9-3 for another car and my other 2 Viggens were totalled in accidents. The last vig had over 100K km and ran like new. Other than the torque steer and cowl shake from the cab, it was one of the most comfortable and smooth hwy drive cars. Not to mention the stage 3 mod that brings the car to a complete sleeper pushing 300hp 320ft/t.
With the Porsche as my DD, I still have the itch every so often to get into now my wife Viggen and go for a drive.

[phthom]

First car i ever had was a 90spg w/ the airflow bodykit. Anyone that has the patience or heart to still roll a c900 as a daily is a hero in my book. I've said plenty of times that i'd trade my r32 staight up if i was guaranteed 2 years of maintenance free driving of my old spg. Far from fast but fun as hell to drive and sounded amazing in the end.... being before it entirely stopped running. I don't know of anyone who has owned an spg that doesn't have a soft spot for them. New generations are far as rock solid but mainly because people try to stretch their oil change intervals to 10k atleast w/ the 4cyl, the v6 have been and always will be junk imo.

[dcentric]

maybe i did get a lemon, but i'm not inclined to try again—especially since i'm not a fan of small turbo engines connected to front wheel drive cars. To make matters worse we owned it when we lived at high altitude, which made the car an absolute dog until the turbo kicked in, then it was the annoying torque steer.

Originally Posted by Jake Ok

Sorry to hear about your experience. You may have gotten a lemond. This is my 4th Saab and my 3rd Viggen and never had a problem with them. I sold my first 9-3 for another car and my other 2 Viggens were totalled in accidents. The last vig had over 100K km and ran like new. Other than the torque steer and cowl shake from the cab, it was one of the most comfortable and smooth hwy drive cars. Not to mention the stage 3 mod that brings the car to a complete sleeper pushing 300hp 320ft/t.
With the Porsche as my DD, I still have the itch every so often to get into now my wife Viggen and go for a drive.

[Jake Ok]

Originally Posted by dcentric

maybe i did get a lemon, but i'm not inclined to try again—especially since i'm not a fan of small turbo engines connected to front wheel drive cars. To make matters worse we owned it when we lived at high altitude, which made the car an absolute dog until the turbo kicked in, then it was the annoying torque steer.

The new GM version or the Saab is pretty crappy, they share many parts with the cavaliers and the pontiacs. If you ever get a chance to drive a Viggen (made only between 99-02) you may have a different opinion about the Swed Saab. A fabulous Turbo 4 cyl engine where till today is still talked about by many Turbo P car enthuiast. My Vig is pushing 300hp and averages about 24mpg.

[DJbrand1]

Oh you mean Slaaab's?

[bruceinmiami]

Originally Posted by phthom

First car i ever had was a 90spg w/ the airflow bodykit. Anyone that has the patience or heart to still roll a c900 as a daily is a hero in my book. I've said plenty of times that i'd trade my r32 staight up if i was guaranteed 2 years of maintenance free driving of my old spg. Far from fast but fun as hell to drive and sounded amazing in the end.... being before it entirely stopped running. I don't know of anyone who has owned an spg that doesn't have a soft spot for them. New generations are far as rock solid but mainly because people try to stretch their oil change intervals to 10k atleast w/ the 4cyl, the v6 have been and always will be junk imo.

amen on all counts. clearly someone who simphasizes with saab junkies,

[newport996]

Yes you had one after GM bought Saab. The Swedish car was a TANK. The 16v Turbo was truly a hot engine. I was on my original engine and transmission at 250k+ miles. It still got up and ran pretty good for a 4 cylinder car....

Originally Posted by dcentric

maybe i did get a lemon, but i'm not inclined to try again—especially since i'm not a fan of small turbo engines connected to front wheel drive cars. To make matters worse we owned it when we lived at high altitude, which made the car an absolute dog until the turbo kicked in, then it was the annoying torque steer.