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Old 08-18-2008, 06:52 PM
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Yep- I do kind of see a trend with "same same" stuff. Heck, looking at a lot of the expensive mufflers for sale (I won't name any brands), the cans appear to be exactly the same. Which is why I was stoked to find the AfterHours exhaust because it is radically different than typical mufflers and appears to provide not only good sound and weight savings, but some actual added performance benefit. In addition, they are actually priced very reasonably, especially considering there is experienced hand-craftsmanship behind each one. It's nice to see a shop thinking outside of the box and taking a chance to offer something different from the pack. Love to see some more of this thinking in other aftermarket performance areas, but keeping reality in mind it does take time and money to come up with a new tested / proven product. Not too many companies want to take the risk and would prefer to stick with "what works", i.e. the norm.

That Blitz controller looks great!! - no listing for pcars though, unfortunately, do you know if they intend to make them?
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:56 PM
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BTW Dinan seems to have really blown it with BMW not officially carrying their line anymore. Shame-
My buddy who has the Dinan stage III kit on his ZHP 330i was complaining to me the other week that the BMW dealer did not want to work on fixing his car (Dinan transmission software related issue)... even though they installed all of the Dinan products for him!!
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:23 PM
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BMW is actually SUEING software companies that are offering ECU tuning for the new BMWS for compywrite infringement. Thats is why all the tuning other than dinan is a piggy back. There are companies that have tunes down, but they are scared to release the information because the dont want to get nailed by BMW. very strange that BMW is taking the nissan GTR approach to aftermarket mods
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I am the manager at GTPRO performance tuning. I am AEM EMS certified and EFI 101 trained in standalone engine management and fuel injection theory. I have an MECP master certification and have 8 yrs in the professional performance industry. My shop is the offical testing facilty for IPD, european car magazine, and eurotuner. We hold serveral world records in japanese platforms and have moved on from there. I actually have an e46 in my shop im installing the dinan TB's on. As for the throttle, i understand. but there are CHEAPER ways to do what your talking about. http://www.blitz-performance.com/ind...index&cPath=79
I just get upset from my perspective of NEW companies coming in and offering the same product over and over ,,renamed and rebadged while making the same results. The european parts market is in somewhat of a box.
there is VERY little to choose from as far as parts are concerned, and instead of making NEW parts for the car, everyone is trying to make the same parts and just try and steal a portion of that market. Such as exhausts. There are as many porsche exhausts on the market as a honda civic. why not work on intake manifolds, ignition amplification, camshafts, etc?
"My shop is the offical testing facilty for IPD" I just caught that in your above statement. Curiousity, how would you rate the IPD Plenum?

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Old 08-18-2008, 10:39 PM
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"My shop is the offical testing facilty for IPD" I just caught that in your above statement. Curiousity, how would you rate the IPD Plenum?
Probably the best mod for your porsche that you can do.There has been instances to where it did not make power on some cars. Changes were then made many times over on many different cars before the product was actually released. Its not so much the total max power it gives, but the increase in the midrange where porsche was designed to shine that is the nice part of the plenum. They work, and ALOT of dynoetime went into testing them
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good to know, I have one going on next week

BTW, I called Blitz and they do not have any plans to address the Euro car market any time soon. Real bummer-
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Probably the best mod for your porsche that you can do.There has been instances to where it did not make power on some cars. Changes were then made many times over on many different cars before the product was actually released. Its not so much the total max power it gives, but the increase in the midrange where porsche was designed to shine that is the nice part of the plenum. They work, and ALOT of dynoetime went into testing them
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Probably the best mod for your porsche that you can do.There has been instances to where it did not make power on some cars. Changes were then made many times over on many different cars before the product was actually released. Its not so much the total max power it gives, but the increase in the midrange where porsche was designed to shine that is the nice part of the plenum. They work, and ALOT of dynoetime went into testing them
Denis, I agree 100% witht he IPD product....and thanks for saving me another 1000.00 bucks on the SW - I am not feeling much motivation for it now....it should be priced in the 350-500.00 price range IMO for the output it gives a NA 996....I am getting fed up with the European aftermkt - especially the pricing structure.

Now if a company came out with this kind of price I may get remotivated...sounds to me like a newby should start a company and offer sw upgrades of 50% of what all the other companies charge...
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good to know, I have one going on next week

BTW, I called Blitz and they do not have any plans to address the Euro car market any time soon. Real bummer-
The japanese companies are understaffed right now. The US dollar vs yen really hurting bringing in product to the US. Blitz will be adding euro to the lineup eventually. They just have to gear up for it. Right now everyone in a scramble for sema as are we
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Thanks for the good info, Denis. One question you or someone else may be able to answer..I could look , I guess, but I need some posts...is the intake flap that shortens the plenum over 5200 rpm controlled by electronic actuator (if so, can it be altered in the program) or vacuum ? I sure would like to close up a little sooner.
Like pOrsch3, I'd be happy with a small map trim and some throttle response out of the software. The peak gain doesn't mean so much to me.
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Thanks for the good info, Denis. One question you or someone else may be able to answer..I could look , I guess, but I need some posts...is the intake flap that shortens the plenum over 5200 rpm controlled by electronic actuator (if so, can it be altered in the program) or vacuum ? I sure would like to close up a little sooner.
Like pOrsch3, I'd be happy with a small map trim and some throttle response out of the software. The peak gain doesn't mean so much to me.
The flap cannot be changed. The IPD plenum actually helps with that. If your looking for engine response, get a lightweight flywheel and bite on a 1k flash to play with your throttle voltage. You know what? i bet i can make the blitz piece work on a porsche. hmmm. stay tuned
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Thanks. More tuning questions. Does a CEL from cat bypass adversely effect the tuning ? On a track car , can the software upgrades be configured to keep the CEL from illuminating ?

Off the software subject, is anyone out there with a BMC or K & N panel filter having MAF issues ? "Seems" like most of the issues have been with the intake kits.
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Denis_GTpro, thanks for all the insight of the tuning world... GL with your piggy project, looking forward to more of your posts. It seems like FI is the only way to go at this point...
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Off the software subject, is anyone out there with a BMC or K & N panel filter having MAF issues ? "Seems" like most of the issues have been with the intake kits.
well actually it is a issue with the oil on the filter getting on the contact area for the MAF
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^ yep but only seems to apply to some of the early 996 cars, '99 etc.. I have not heard of an issue with '02 and up cars.
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