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Old 01-19-2010, 09:20 PM
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996 mk1 vs 996 mk2... Which to buy?

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After a year of non-911 ownership, I'm trying to get back in. What I'm basically seeing is 1999s @ 30 thousand miles with all service manuals, keys, and maintenance reports as low as 23 thousand dollars and 2002 with 60 thousand for the same price. A third option and not really what I was looking, but 2001 cabriolets selling for 20-21 thousand with low mileage. I dont know if I can forgive myself to buy a porsche and not have the lines of a coupe (besides the point).

I know when I owned a 1999, I fought tooth and nail to prove the fact that the maintenance was the same and the seal failures was more common in the 1999s only because they were on the road longer. My particular 1999 had no unexpected repairs at 35 thousand miles. Now that I am on the other side of the fence, I seek advice.

Is the performance difference between the 2 really noticeable? Is the maintenance really that much better? Is it better to the point where I should buy a 60k mile mk2 over a 30k mile mk1? I am still on the fence about the looks of the two front ends.

Anyone got a good deal on a car they want to sell??? Ready to buy.
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When I bought my '99, I didn't do much research on the RMS/IMS. When I was shopping, I went with the best value, the lowest mileage, and the cleanest car with the color I like that I could find in a specific area. Now that I've learned much about my car, if I was to do it again at this moment, I will look for cars with motors that had been replaced and would have gone for a mkII as I kinda like the front of the mk2 better. I don't have any regrets on my car and I'm having a blast with it though. But the next time I shop for a P-car, I'll skip the 996 mk2 and jump a generation higher (997) or a generation lower (993). So, yeah, answering your question, a 30k mk1 or a 60k mk2, i'd go for the one with the replaced motor. If neither had the replaced motor, I'd go with the cleaner, better maintained car. But I'll prioritize on the mk2, since in your case, you already had a mk1.
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I appreciate the response, you have a great looking car.

unfortunately, the 997 is not an option ($$$), and I think the 993 is a little too "throwback" for me. I like the newer look a lot more. I haven't seen many in my searches with a replaced engine so far but that is an interesting approach.
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I would budget an IMS retrofit, from LN engineering, for any car you get while replacing the clutch at the same time. Should be around $2.5K. This is the best insurance you can get for your car right now; replacement engine or not.
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I would budget an IMS retrofit, from LN engineering, for any car you get while replacing the clutch at the same time. Should be around $2.5K. This is the best insurance you can get for your car right now; replacement engine or not.
This, which almost none of us do until is too late, is a VERY good idea. Do you have house insurance? Same thing

2001's engine block's are supposed to have the porosity issue addressed, vs 99-00.

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Tarzancoe,

Would you mind in explaining the porosity issue. I am a recent P-car owner and have a 2000 c4 cab and I am not aware.
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As I am rebuilding my engine due to a cracked head and cylinder, I talked to several shops that could help me with the issue.

white smoke of left exhaust

As I understood it, the casted block in the first mkI 996 had a porosity problem, thus more prone to crack. I guess the casting was done wrong somehow. It seems like such issue was "fixed" (I read minimized at best) in the 2001 mkI and of course in the MKII moving forward.

By the same token, I also seems like the blocks in the Porsche rebuild engines are the "good" ones.

I'll be happy if somebody shows me I am wrong. Really
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This, which almost none of us do until is too late, is a VERY good idea. Do you have house insurance? Same thing

2001's engine block's are supposed to have the porosity issue addressed, vs 99-00.
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As I am rebuilding my engine due to a cracked head and cylinder, I talked to several shops that could help me with the issue.

white smoke of left exhaust

As I understood it, the casted block in the first mkI 996 had a porosity problem, thus more prone to crack. I guess the casting was done wrong somehow. It seems like such issue was "fixed" (I read minimized at best) in the 2001 mkI and of course in the MKII moving forward.

By the same token, I also seems like the blocks in the Porsche rebuild engines are the "good" ones.

I'll be happy if somebody shows me I am wrong. Really
OMG, another thing to worry about.
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Well, I did not worry "because it was not going to happen to me" .

Seriously, the majority of the cars are just fine.
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As I am rebuilding my engine due to a cracked head and cylinder, I talked to several shops that could help me with the issue.

white smoke of left exhaust

As I understood it, the casted block in the first mkI 996 had a porosity problem, thus more prone to crack. I guess the casting was done wrong somehow. It seems like such issue was "fixed" (I read minimized at best) in the 2001 mkI and of course in the MKII moving forward.

By the same token, I also seems like the blocks in the Porsche rebuild engines are the "good" ones.

I'll be happy if somebody shows me I am wrong. Really
They just wait you out until warranty expires.

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So ya want to come back! I know how you feel I just traded mine and look forward to getting my next 996/997. Good luck!

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Must have found the perfect deal...that was quick!

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