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Old 01-30-2007, 12:50 AM
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Official Turbo Weight Loss Thread/ Lightest Turbo List

Want to trim some weight off of your turbo? You arent alone. This thread is for detailed inputs on weight reduction for the 996 Twin Turbo. Please no guesstimates or they wont be added to the list.

WHY IS WEIGHT LOSS IMPORTANT?!?!?!?!?!?!
Ive been wondering how weight loss translates in terms of hp so I did some rough calculations that might be interesting to you all. If you assume a 3500 lb car with 500 hp, each 100 lbs of weight loss translates to this amount of power. Math experts please correct me if im wrong.

Weight....actual HP.........lbs/hp.............relative power
3500.......500.................7.0................ .500
3400.......500.................6.8................ .514.7
3300.......500.................6.6................ .530.3
3200.......500.................6.4................ .546.9
3100.......500.................6.2................ .564.5
3000.......500.................6.0................ .583.3

So a 300lb weight loss is the equivalent of adding 47 hp if my calculations are correct. Interesting to note that going from 3500 to 3400 is only equivalent to 14.7 hp and going from 3100 to 3000 is equivalent to gaining 18.8 hp. It would be interesting to make tables like this for cars with 600hp and 700 hp and so on. (rwm514)

Requirements for being included in the weight loss thread. #1 Replacement Part #2 Brand of said part i.e. GT3 Recaro seats, GTR Brembo BBK #3 Actual weight difference between both parts, weight lost by installing new part or the weight of the new part itself.

This method will allow us to eliminate some of the guess work for those of us trying to trim some weight.

More discussion on the topic of weight reduction for the 996 TT here Weight Savings


Battery: Stock - 52 lbs
Odyssey PC680 14.99 lbs (Sallymobile)
Odyssey PC925 26.0 lbs (Sallymobile)
Odyssey PC1200 38.2 lbs (Sallymobile)
Optima Red Top battery = 39.4lbs (jimmer23)

Spare Tire and Tools Removal:
- 39.2 lbs (Al Norton)

Wiper Delete:
-3.8 lbs (Al Norton)

RWD Conversion:
Differential, drive shaft, both axles - 68-71 lbs (rwm524 )
Front differential 52.0 lbs. Driveshaft 6 lbs, 10 oz. Half shafts 12 lbs. 2 oz. the pair. Total for removing these items -71.0 lbs. (Al Norton)

Brakes:
Brembo 14" kit w/ 6-piston caliper (fronts only)
OEM caliper weighs 10.1lbs vs. Brembo caliper weighs 7.8lbs
OEM disc weighs 23.4lbs vs. Brembo disc weighs 16.9lbs - 17.6 lbs total

Rotora 355 mm rotors with 6 piston fronts and 4 pistons rears... rotors 17LBS, 6 piston calipers 7 lbs., 4 piston rears 6 lbs
-19 lbs lost in front
- lbs lost in rear (MARKSKI)

Seats:
Rear Seat Removal - 22.1 lbs (Al Norton)
GT3 Seats - 58 lbs (Al Norton)

Clutch/Flywheel Items:
-Stock clutch/pressure plate/disc/flywheel - 46 lbs (Al Norton)
-Clutch Actuator - 7 lbs (cjv)
-LWFW and Sachs Pressure PLate - 19 lbs (rwm 514)

Exhaust Items:
996 Twin Turbo Sports Imported Racing Catalytic Converters with Muffler Bypass Pipes -50lbs (f1crazydriver)
Tubi Style exhaust(first gen) : 35.2lbs Stock Exhaust : 57.6lbs net loss 22.4lbs (TXGold)


Other Interior:
Subwoofer Removal - 12.2 lbs (Al Norton)

Body Parts:
-Bumper Supports -Front bumper support and all hardware 14.2
Rear bumper support, rear heatshield, and all hardware 21.4 (TXGold)
-Roof
-GT2 Roof Skin
-Doors
-Hood
-Stock hood 40lbs. Carbon Fiber Hood 16lbs. (luckyluke)
-Custom carbon hood 5lbs. 35lb savings. (lucky luke)
-Spoiler/Deck Lid & Carbon Fiber Roof - 35 lbs (luckyluke)
-Techart Wing, removal of wing motor mechanism - 30-35 lbs (DMK)
-Carbon /Kevlar Bumpers
-Rear Bumperrettes - 2 lbs 7 oz for the pair (Al Norton)

Wheels: (hollows listed twice)
Factory 996 Turbo Hollows
8x18" at 22 lbs 2oz
11x18" at 26 lbs 5 oz

Factory 996 Turbo Solids
8x18" at 26 lbs 2 oz
11x18" at 31 lbs 6 oz

Factory GT2 wheels uses Turbo solids in wider spec:
8.5x18" at 28lbs 11 oz
12x18" at 33 lbs 0 oz

Factory GT3 wheels
8x18" 22 lbs 10 oz.
11x18" 27 lbs. 11 oz.

Factory GT2 wheels (later years, GT3 style)
8.5x18" 25 lbs. 2 oz.
12x18" 29 lbs.

Turbo II Hollow Spoke (BBS)
18x8 offset 50 996.362.136.04 21.27 lbs
18x11 offset 45 996.362.142.03 26.23 lbs
18x11 offset 45 996.362.142.11 26.23 lbs

Turbo I Hollow Spoke
18x7.5 offset 993.362.134.05 18.96 lbs
18x8 offset 993.362.136.00 19.62 lbs
18x10 offset 993.362.140.00 25.13 lbs
18x10 offset 993.362.140.01 23.37 lbs
18x10 offset 993.362.140.01A 23.94 lbs

Turbo Look II (BBS)
18x8 offset 50 996.362.136.01 26.23 lbs
18x11 offset 45 996.362.142.01 31.96 lbs
18x12 offset 45 996.362.142.31 32.4 lbs

AFTERMARKET WHEELS

-BBS E88 race wheels
18x9 18.8lbs
18x12 19.4lbs

-BBS RS-GT
18x8 20.6 lbs
18x11 24.5 lbs


-19" Dymags for 997S
16 lbs., 0 oz. front
19 lbs., 0 oz. rear

-Fiske Profil 13:
8.5X18 = 21 lbs.
12X18 = 22.5 lbs


Tires:
Pirelli P Zero Nero Stock sizes front 23.14 lbs rear 27.11 lbs

Nitto NT-01 245/40ZR18 is 25.35 lbs. 315/30ZR18 is 29.98 lbs (AL Norton)

Continental Sport Contact 2 Stock Sizes front 23.14 lbs rear 25.35 lbs


Toyo Proxes R888
225/40 18 22.7 lbs
235/40 18 24.69 lbs
265/35 18 26.23 lbs

Yokohama Advan A048
225/40 18 22.92 lbs

Kumho Ecsta V70 A
225/40 18 22.92 lbs

Lightest Turbo List:

Stock- 3475 lbs (including default gas weight of 20lbs at 1/4 tank)

1) FrankenPorsche- 2810, w/ 10 gallons of fuel at that. Mod list to come.
2) Markski 3150 - interior all gone except roof lining. GT3 seats. no fron nor rear bumpers nor bumper supports. techart fron spoiler, side skirts, Gembella rear wing, small battery, Rear Wheel Drive.
HOWEVER, I have huge GT35r turbos and wastegates, very heavy axles, big intercoolers, but lighter exhaust.
hope this helps to put things into perspective
3) wirx 3175 Today weighed my car - 3260lbs (1/5 gas), Removed spare and tools, removed rear seats, floor mats, straight pipes,
removed NOS bottle, removed hood inside carpets, smaller battery, (22lbs), RWD, 1 race seat, lighter decklid
4)rwm514 3192 lbs RWD conversion, LWFW, Fabspeed exhaust, spare and tools removed, floormats and manual removed,GT3 seats, rear seat removal
5)TXGold 3215 RWD Conversion,Mats, spare, and tools/Wiper Delete/Rear Seat Removal/Subwoofer Removal/UMW LWFW/Tubi Exhaust/Rear and Front Bumper support removal/Zero Fuel (18 lbs already added for 1/4 tank of fuel)
6) PV996TT 3216 lbs no spare, no rear seats, smaller battery, brakes, BBS wheels, carbon fiber doors and hood, RUF front, GT2 deck/lid problably the same weight as standard, carbon fiber GT3 seats, Öhlins suspension, titanium rods, inconel headers, RUF steering wheel, RUF intake, Sportec carbon fiber airbox. Added weight: RUF Integrated Roll Cage, harness, oilcooler for gearbox, aluminium pedals.
7) Heavychevy 3247 - Removed spare and tools, removed rear seats, floor mats, AWE straight pipes, One Corbeau Racing seat, 964 RS LWFW, GMG roll bar, oddessey PC80 Battery, misha GT2 decklid and wing, yoko advan slicks
8) Silvershark 3282 Removed spare tire and tools, Lighter battery 26lb.,Kinesis F110 wheels (F) 19x8.5 17lbs (R) 19x11.5 20lbs each
Michellen PS2 tires, LWFW, Europipe loud exhaust, Sachs P-plate ceramic disc ,Rear wiper delete, Corbeau A4 seats 25lbs each
Removed rear seats,seat belts, hardware and foam rubber insulation
9) Contigo 3284 - Removed rear seats completelly plus seats belts, took off insulation of all the rear seats, changed front seats to GT3 seats CF, removed front and rear bumpers, AWE straight pipes, Gemballa racing wheels and Michelin PS2 tires rim 19, Rear wipper delette, CF hood, Rear Gemballa spoiler and GT2 CF wing, no spare, no tools, nothing in front empty, brembo GT brakes 8 piston and 380 mm floating rotors, bumperettes delette
10) Whirls 3347 TechArt Type II body kit, GT3 Seats, rear seats removed, RUF 18" 3 piece wheels, Porsche roll bar
11) DrewTT 3350 removed back seats, rear wiper delete, sport seats, tubi exhaust, removed spare tire and rest of junk from trunk
quarter tank of gas.
12) Mikelly 3360 My mods are the GT2 rear wing/wiper delete, removal of front bumper stops/hardware, GT3 seats, DGI Exhaust (superlight weight), PSS9 Coil overs, and no tool kit
13) SEVE KOJASEVIC-3430 lbs rwd full tank of gas full interior , sport sports (semi powered) heavy OEM 19" carrera wheels

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Wing motor and other parts conversion to stationary wing I believe was 30 - 35lbs
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Optima Red Top battery = 39.4lbs
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Wing motor and other parts conversion to stationary wing I believe was 30 - 35lbs
Which wing, the same as yours? Please Specify.
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Heavyc,

A more correct figure for rear wiper would be 3.8 lbs. according to my measurement of 3 lb. 13.5 oz.
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Sorry Techart.
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Sorry Techart.
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You too Al.

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Good stuff, guys. Keep the great info coming.
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I think I should stand corrected on the rear wiper, take off my 7 pounds must have had other junk in my hands, the other number sounds better.

Rear seats out they are light and dont know but 5-10 pounds max.
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What, specifically, must you remove from the wiper delete to drop over 3 pounds? I assume it is more than just the rear wiper arm and blade. If so, what do you do to fill the hole?
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You will remove the motor assembly also. It involves popping out that rear vertical panel and you will need a 13mm socket to get the wiper blade off and 10mm socket to remove the inside bolts. Erik the plug guy, found on this forum, can supply a plug for under $30.
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I'm gonna weigh my car this weekend when I take it to the drag strip. I will be able to hold the #1 spot on the lightest turbo list until someone with some real weight loss posts up. MUHAHAHHAHAHAAH
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Thanks Al. So how does it look with a plug in place of the uncomfortable looking rear wiper. And do I even want to know how Eric the plug guy got his name?
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Bumper supports aprox 20lbs per
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Thanks Al. So how does it look with a plug in place of the uncomfortable looking rear wiper. And do I even want to know how Eric the plug guy got his name?
Plug looks great. Perfect match to my Arctic Silver. I expect a perfect match will also occur with your color.

Don't Know how the name came to be, but the service is stellar.
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