997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.
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Porsche tested what everyone had been testing. Because what they were wondering was how the GT-R had been besting the Porsches in the MEDIA, and since the ones in the media were on Bridgestones, THAT'S WHAT THEY TESTED!!!!!!!! If they were within 5 seconds of the 7:29 they likely would've kept their mouth shut. The Dunlops will not account for 27 seconds. PERIOD.
You are the one making excuses here. Not me.
What's the media testing of the GTRs got to do with Nissan's 7:29 claim on the ring? Porsche was not interested in seeing if the GTR was faster than the turbo - they already know that. Porsche was out to see if it was possible to replicate the 7:29 on the ring, which was clearly stated by Nissan that that time was achieved using a stock car under ideal conditions and using DUNLOPS. Now why would they go out and buy a GTR which has BRIDGESTONES and NOT the DUNLOPS to verify Nissan's claim? Pretty stupid wouldn't you think so? You don't make sense HC
I give you a scenario, lets say your friend tells you that he can drive a Z06 2:15 around a particular track - which is 5 sec faster than what you can do. Now you want to check out his claim to see if he's telling the truth or just 'pulling your leg' by driving the Z06 on that track yourself. Wouldn't you be asking him what tires he'd used, the state of tune of the car and the track conditions? You would want to know all the details and make sure that the car you drove is the same spec as the car he drove and under similar conditions before you go off and accuse him of lying wouldn't you?
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Why would I need to ask the state of the tune of the car if it's supposed to be factory stock?
The point the Porsche made is the same as DR is making. They gave the benefit of the doubt for some better driving, and better weather and better tires and still dont think a 7:27 is possible. Stop trying to act like Porsche is the only group saying this. Add Horst to that list as well.
We have several guys which extensive knowledge of the ring saying they dont think it's possible. Like I said, had Porsche ran a 1:35-1:40 I bet they would have kep their mouth shut because they gave room for knowledge of the car and better tires.
You are trying to hard to resist a mountain of evidence that points to Nissan cheating yet again. Go back and read my acceleration data if you forgot some of it.
But what else should we expect from a Z07?
__________________ The GT-R is harder to drift than a 997 TT or 997 GT3, therefore if you are trying to drift, the GT-R will consequently get a faster lap. Normal apexing and driving not included.
When the Sport Auto Supertest comes in Feb, it may be the last kick in the hairless marbles for the fanbois. Between that and the 200k cars Nissan had to recall last month alone, Ghosn is probably eating Rolaids by the fistful.
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When the Sport Auto Supertest comes in Feb, it may be the last kick in the hairless marbles for the fanbois. Between that and the 200k cars Nissan had to recall last month alone, Ghosn is probably eating Rolaids by the fistful.
Shhhhh....I think there's something wrong with the GT-R's transmission.
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__________________ The GT-R is harder to drift than a 997 TT or 997 GT3, therefore if you are trying to drift, the GT-R will consequently get a faster lap. Normal apexing and driving not included.
Why would I need to ask the state of the tune of the car if it's supposed to be factory stock?
The point the Porsche made is the same as DR is making. They gave the benefit of the doubt for some better driving, and better weather and better tires and still dont think a 7:27 is possible. Stop trying to act like Porsche is the only group saying this. Add Horst to that list as well.
We have several guys which extensive knowledge of the ring saying they dont think it's possible. Like I said, had Porsche ran a 1:35-1:40 I bet they would have kep their mouth shut because they gave room for knowledge of the car and better tires.
You are trying to hard to resist a mountain of evidence that points to Nissan cheating yet again. Go back and read my acceleration data if you forgot some of it.
But what else should we expect from a Z07?
I give up with you. You always manage to talk your way around things.
If you had read PROPERLY, it's a response to Mr BMW man ie ///M Kevin's comment of "G(Guranteed) T(transmission) R(replacement)" How ironic.
Some car manufacturers make mistakes but it's what they do to fix the problem that matters. What is Nissan doing to fix the transmission problem? They're taking LC away. Is that what BMW is doing with their problem? Are they running away or are they addressing it?
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Some car manufacturers make mistakes but it's what they do to fix the problem that matters. What is Nissan doing to fix the transmission problem? They're taking LC away. Is that what BMW is doing with their problem? Are they running away or are they addressing it?
Why should Nissan fix the problem when there is no problem? unlike BMW - there is nothing wrong with the GTR's transmission. Ever heard of 'don't try to fix something when it's not broken?'
What needs to be fixed are the mindset of idiots who abuse the LC function and internet trolls and 'haters' who go out of their way to exaggerate the problem. But unfortunately, you cannot tell idiots what to do and what not to do and there are a lot of idiots out there who thinks that LC on the GTR is like a ticket to unlimited drag racing. Nissan did the right thing by taking it away.
Besides, LC is a gimmick. GTR owners are already hitting the 11.6 -11.7sec quarter mile times day in day out WITHOUT LC and with stock cars.
Why should Nissan fix the problem when there is no problem? unlike BMW - there is nothing wrong with the GTR's transmission. Ever heard of 'don't try to fix something when it's not broken?'
What needs to be fixed are the mindset of idiots who abuse the LC function and internet trolls and 'haters' who go out of their way to exaggerate the problem. But unfortunately, you cannot tell idiots what to do and what not to do and there are a lot of idiots out there who thinks that LC on the GTR is like a ticket to unlimited drag racing. Nissan did the right thing by taking it away.
Besides, LC is a gimmick. GTR owners are already hitting the 11.6 -11.7sec quarter mile times day in day out WITHOUT LC and with stock cars.
Are you really that dense in real life?
How many of them do you think have tunes and not saying they do because Nissan has people on the boards? Man you are just that thick headed.
Those retards make me want to punch them in the face
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