997 TT beats GT-R at Ring. Nissan accused of cheating.

[Prche951]

Originally Posted by Quacker Evo car of the year. Enjoy.............. http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908 Yah, enjoy this http://2009gtr.blogspot.com/2008/11/...riveshaft.html http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26013 http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26242 http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26143 http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25497 http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26362 http://www.2009gtr.com/2008/11/2010-...rol-in-us.html oh, that's right, the magazines do a one day test to sdee who's the best. I guess a top fuel dragster would clean house oh and more: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/20/n...rom-2010-gt-r/

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[silk]

Originally Posted by chrisn

Nissan NA GT-R "Specialist" told me personally that the only tranny failures not covered under warranty so far have had "many more then 30" launches. 50+ is just my guess.

There are about 1500 GT-R in the USA now (delivered and in customer hands), with volume deliveries starting in August. People started throwing out BS stats like "30+ bad trannies" and "5 bad trannies just in my area," etc. These claims started flying around about a month ago.

If true, we should be hearing about multiple additional failures each week, right?

No new cases reported in a long time (and only handful of truly documented cases to begin with).

What conclusion do you draw? And based on what facts?

As far as I know there are close to 200 GTRs in Hong Kong, first one arrived in HK in Jan 2007. I have not heard of any tranny failure ! I have personally saw 2 drove over 330kms !!

[Prche951]

Oh and the truth about the ring

http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...c/thetruth030/

how does an all wheel drive car that is supposedly teh fastist car in di worl go 7 seconds slower than a rear wheel drive car at the rin on a damp track where the AWD should have had the advantage. Oh yah, it's called NISSAN LIES

[Prche951]

Originally Posted by silk

As far as I know there are close to 200 GTRs in Hong Kong, first one arrived in HK in Jan 2007. I have not heard of any tranny failure ! I have personally saw 2 drove over 330kms !!

I have not heard of any flat tires either. oh and again out of maybe 1100 cars in the US only 20% max probably driven hard, so 30+ problems in 200 cars is bad.

[ALPINE_997]

[quote=Quacker;2162585]Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....908[/quote]

Enjoy...

1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)

In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm

[Prche951]

[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]

Originally Posted by Quacker

Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]

Enjoy...

1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)

In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm

well, I don't know about you, but I would take a Honda Civic type R any day over a Gallardo

[Quacker]

[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]

Originally Posted by Quacker

Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]

Enjoy...

1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)

In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm

Just shows that the guys over at Evo magazine aint bias towards the GTR as you guys believe eh? In fact, they love Porsches. Too bad the GT2 didn't win this year though.
Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?

[Vladcanada]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHX4qziAsw0

HS GT570 Kit - Boost set to 17psi
Amuse STTI Exhaust (Catback)
Harman Motive Air Intake System
Custom Methanol Injection
Custom Cobb Map (Thanks John!)
18" Volk TE37s w/Mickey Thompson drag radials
Fuel: Mix of 93 and 109. I added a few gallons of 109 to just under a 1/3 tank of 93.
* Side Note: This car has a chromoly rollcage that probably adds 80-90lbs to the car's weight.

[USCCayman]

Originally Posted by Prche951

yah, but it's curvy

Yea, sexy!

[Quacker]

Originally Posted by Vladcanada

HS GT570 Kit - Boost set to 17psi
Amuse STTI Exhaust (Catback)
Harman Motive Air Intake System
Custom Methanol Injection
Custom Cobb Map (Thanks John!)
18" Volk TE37s w/Mickey Thompson drag radials
Fuel: Mix of 93 and 109. I added a few gallons of 109 to just under a 1/3 tank of 93.
* Side Note: This car has a chromoly rollcage that probably adds 80-90lbs to the car's weight.

You forgot to mention that he USED LC. Why aint the gearbox blowing up?? With that much power, surely the fragile GR6 should've been in pieces by now?

[eclou]

Originally Posted by Quacker

Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?

Horst Von Saurma, Sport Auto Supertest 7:33, 997 Gt2

[jpvarghese]

10's already?? Damn that was quick, lol!

[heavychevy]

[quote=Quacker;2162797]

Originally Posted by ALPINE_997

Just shows that the guys over at Evo magazine aint bias towards the GTR as you guys believe eh? In fact, they love Porsches. Too bad the GT2 didn't win this year though.
Just a quick question, has there been any independent tests of the GT2 by journals that has gotten anywhere close to the 7:32 claim by Porsche at the 'Ring'? Or the 7:42 claim by Porsche for the turbo?

What does making it the car of the year have anything to do with bias? I'd like to the logis on that one.


Oh yeah and pwned by sport auto.

[Galactus]

[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]

Originally Posted by Quacker

Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]

Enjoy...

1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)

In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm

So Evo has been giving out Car of the Year awards to Porsche's, but the GT-R beats the baddest Porsche on sale for their Car of the Year crown. Pretty impressive. But again this is still just a magazine award, like the Automobile and Motor Trend Car of the Year trophies the GT-R has now collected. But Evo is a damn good magazine, and the level of competition was pretty spectacular for this test: Gallardo LP-560, Porsche GT2, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, and Alfa Romeo 8C

Another GT-R owner has gone 10.8@128mph+ using the fragile tranny and LC... Wow that tranny sure is a pile of crap. The haters have been saying it is only rated to 550 pound feet of torque and will explode if you exceed that number. That GT-R is making 600 pound feet to the wheels, using the LC on a sticky drag strip. Perhaps if you do 50 launches on it within the first 3 weeks of ownership, before anything is even broken in, you will blow it up? Running 600 pound feet and 600+ horsepower at a drag strip while using LC would surely blow it up if there is a design flaw with the gearbox. I am sure the clutches in that gearbox are not enjoying the additional 120+ horsepower and 170 pound feet of torque, but so far so good. I guess when these cars are running as fast as a Veyron with under $8000 worth of mods next year people on this board may give the car some respect.....NOT!

Fastest production car ever!:

$1.5M Bugatti Veyron
(Road and track)
0-60mph 2.6
0-100mph 5.5
10.2@142.9mph 1/4 mile

$75,000 GT-R ($8K+ modified)
0-60mph 2.39
0-100mph 6.2
10.8@129mph 1/4 mile

This car really is as Autocar's Chris Harris says, a Baby Veyron.

So the GT-R's are already running 10.8 1/4's with 129-133mph traps with the stock exhaust still in place. If these tranny's are not made of glass, then this car will be running 9 second passes next year with some of the turbo kits in development. But then again it is still an ugly Nissan POS right everyone?

[MiniDHinkle]

[quote=ALPINE_997;2162736]

Originally Posted by Quacker

Evo car of the year. Enjoy..............

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26908[/quote]

Enjoy...

1999 - Porsche GT3(996) MK1
2000 - Porsche 911 Turbo(996)
2003 - Porsche GT3
2004 - Porsche 911(997) C2S
2007 - Porsche GT3/RS(997)

In 2007 The Honda Civic Type R beat out the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera for 6th place. Hmmmm

ALPINE 997 With the own@g3.

Do you not answer PM's anymore???