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I'm trying to install it as I write this and I haven't gotten very far. I have an 08 TT with the factory CDC. I removed the plastic trim covers for the CDC and Nav unit. I removed one of the 10 mm nuts for the CDC bracket. The other is tucked way in the corner near the amp underneath 2 layers of the carpeted siding. I can't quite get enough clearance to get my hand and a wrench in there.
Do I have to remove the main plastic cover in the trunk, the one covering the brake fluid reservoir, so I can pull put the carpet further to access the nut? It doesn't look like removing the amp is desirable.
If so, how do I remove that little rectangular center plastic piece with the horizontal bar mounted on the back of the trunk wall (firewall side)? I don't even know what it's for, and it's somehow mounted to sheet metal behind it. It needs to come out in order for the main panel to come out.
Everyone says the install is so simple, so am I missing something obviously easy? Someone had told me that there's only 1 nut for the CDC bracket, but mine definitely has the two.
Thanks for any tips.
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Like I said in multiple emails, you do NOT need to redesign the entire system for this. All you need to do is reroute the fiber optic cables. The Dension unit can rest inside the plastic compartment.
Maybe someone has some pics handy (I'm mobile) and can post.....sorry you are having trouble.
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Are you telling me I don't need to pull out the CDC? Since the cable is against the floor and covered by the CDC I HAVE to pull up the CDC in order to unplug the cable and then continue with the install. There's no other way. You can't just reach down behind the CDC and unplug the cable. It's completely hidden from sight. I'm not redesigning the system. I'm merely trying to get access. The CDC has to be loosened. All of the installs I've read about on the forums seem to have been in cars without factory CDC's. No one has described or talked about removing the CDC unit itself. Maybe I'm a little slow today, but I can't see any other way of doing this besides removing the CDC.
Can you see the fiber optic from the cd changer up higher in the trunk area? If so, perhaps you can grab it where it is coming from, and route that to the side port as described for retention of cd changer.
Of the installations/units we've sold, probably half or more are cd changer cars.
Maybe you can reach the fiber optic that is going to the cd changer and reroute that to the Dension as described in many of the documents we sent. Can you get some digital shots of the front areas in question? That might help to determine why this is so difficult and what you are running into.
If you want the names of some pro installers in your area, let me know.
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By far and away the most comprehensive is the one by Kman-S on PlanetPorsche.net Full documentation and pictures. Granted it is for a Croc, but the cars are nearly identical.
You need to make sure it is wired to unswitched power (it needs power all the time) and that for 997, you install Dension AFTER the headunit and AFTER the CDC in the MOST ring . If it is before, you will have strange issues.
When I connected my Dension, I "broke" the fiber loop at the amplifier by pulling out the inbound fiber, replacing with the outbound from Dension. Said differently, Inbound to the Dension is outbound from the amplifier. When back together, the fiber light ring simple contains both the Dension and the other associated parts of the system - amp, cdc, etc. Pretty easy.
I can't believe you can afford the vehicle and not a proper installation from someone experienced, even the Porsche dealership can figure it out.
next, putting the iPod under the boot, has to be the lamest thing I have yet to see. spend the money to have it professionally installed inside the cabin.
Scenario, coming out of work, guy with the hyundai parked next to yours, he gets in and plugs his iPod into the factory iPod cable, you, with the $140k vehicle have to pop the hood, look like you are changing the oil to hook your iPod up.
The reason so many people place it under the hood, is laziness and Eric sells to a lot of people to do it themselves and surely does not want to take the tech calls on how to remove the radio, need an allen that fits, I broke my radio screen when it fell on the shifter stories, I scratched my dash stories, etc...
The sad part is that some professionals will do the same thing which i do not consider professional at all. I know I sound like I flip-flopped but some shops out there have no clue, but are labeled pro's
Anyways, I am sure you have your reasons, and in no way, shape, or form I am belittling you at all. I am just confused as all hell why anyone would put an iPod under the boot. it is like sticking the trunk opener switches on the passenger side of the vehicle for USA vehicles (covering my bases with the UK vehicles )
Also I want to give a shout out to Eric, he has a huge weight on his shoulders with the Dension product, and single handedly, with no real support from the manufacturer has done a great job bringing this product to the USA and rep'ing it well. Not that I always agree with him, but from a business stand point... I could never do it or want to.
There is absolutely no reason to put the iPod in the cabin
The PCM screen completely controls the iPod, so I see no reason to bring into the cabin.
For those seeking to install into the cabin, it is quite easy too, as there are two rubber gaskets (one on passenger side and one on driver side) that make it very easy to run a cable through the firewall.
We do not suggest ipod in trunk. In fact, we have a detailed set of instructions to bring the cables to the glove box, etc. And in fact, we did suggest to the original poster to get a pro install, but he does want to attempt this on his own. We have a good list of great pro installers around the country, but we also see various customers do this quite well on their own (Gundo). And some customers just want to leave their ipod up there, only needing to remove it to update or travel in other vehicles.
On the support front, we actually do work directly with the corporate engineering guys at Dension, which helps us tremendously in building a knowledge base. Now that this product is more mature and in it's 3rd year, it's done remarkably well, considering all the bugs found in most (no pun) fiber optic products in their first year!
And yes, we take Dension calls everyday, from customers who bump into something and are unsure, even though most of the details are in our guides now....and we're happy to help where we can, even though we're not technicians, we've walked through this a thousand times, so usually we have a fix, or can get one from Engineering quickly. Surprisingly, dealer techs often call on their first install too, and we usually get them through it in no time, then they are good to go.
Thanks for the kind words, and install tips....appreciate it!
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I can't believe you can afford the vehicle and not a proper installation from someone experienced, even the Porsche dealership can figure it out.
next, putting the iPod under the boot, has to be the lamest thing I have yet to see. spend the money to have it professionally installed inside the cabin.
Scenario, coming out of work, guy with the hyundai parked next to yours, he gets in and plugs his iPod into the factory iPod cable, you, with the $140k vehicle have to pop the hood, look like you are changing the oil to hook your iPod up.
The reason so many people place it under the hood, is laziness and Eric sells to a lot of people to do it themselves and surely does not want to take the tech calls on how to remove the radio, need an allen that fits, I broke my radio screen when it fell on the shifter stories, I scratched my dash stories, etc...
The sad part is that some professionals will do the same thing which i do not consider professional at all. I know I sound like I flip-flopped but some shops out there have no clue, but are labeled pro's
Anyways, I am sure you have your reasons, and in no way, shape, or form I am belittling you at all. I am just confused as all hell why anyone would put an iPod under the boot. it is like sticking the trunk opener switches on the passenger side of the vehicle for USA vehicles (covering my bases with the UK vehicles )
Also I want to give a shout out to Eric, he has a huge weight on his shoulders with the Dension product, and single handedly, with no real support from the manufacturer has done a great job bringing this product to the USA and rep'ing it well. Not that I always agree with him, but from a business stand point... I could never do it or want to.
I have my reasons for not wanting someone else to install this. Money has nothing to do with it. I enjoy DIY projects on my vehicles, especially with the plethora of help available from people on this forum and others. Regardless, I will figure it out. And assuming the PCM control of the ipod works well, I love the idea of the ipod in the trunk, completely out of sight. I have a separate ipod dedicated for this car, and I don't change music on it a whole lot, so it's convenient for me. Bringing it into the cabin is easy, and I may do that in the future. But keeping it in the trunk is one less thing for prying eyes to potentially see in the cabin and steal.
I can't believe you can afford the vehicle and not a proper installation from someone experienced, even the Porsche dealership can figure it out.
next, putting the iPod under the boot, has to be the lamest thing I have yet to see. spend the money to have it professionally installed inside the cabin.
Scenario, coming out of work, guy with the hyundai parked next to yours, he gets in and plugs his iPod into the factory iPod cable, you, with the $140k vehicle have to pop the hood, look like you are changing the oil to hook your iPod up.
The reason so many people place it under the hood, is laziness and Eric sells to a lot of people to do it themselves and surely does not want to take the tech calls on how to remove the radio, need an allen that fits, I broke my radio screen when it fell on the shifter stories, I scratched my dash stories, etc...
The sad part is that some professionals will do the same thing which i do not consider professional at all. I know I sound like I flip-flopped but some shops out there have no clue, but are labeled pro's
Anyways, I am sure you have your reasons, and in no way, shape, or form I am belittling you at all. I am just confused as all hell why anyone would put an iPod under the boot. it is like sticking the trunk opener switches on the passenger side of the vehicle for USA vehicles (covering my bases with the UK vehicles )
Also I want to give a shout out to Eric, he has a huge weight on his shoulders with the Dension product, and single handedly, with no real support from the manufacturer has done a great job bringing this product to the USA and rep'ing it well. Not that I always agree with him, but from a business stand point... I could never do it or want to.
Wow, this was one of the most un-helpful posts I've ever read. First it discourages and criticizes self-installation, then talks about things that could go wrong with a professional installation.
rscholl, did you get it installed OK? I'm about to install mine. Will report back once I'm finished.
Does anybody know if the new porsche ipod unit can be retrofitted into an 07 car?
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