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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
A basic ECU tune/exhaust combo would net you about 65-75 hp at the wheels.

Add intercoolers and and IPD plenum, then you could go for our stage 2 which nets you about 120 whp.

This particular car has our larger VTG turbos installed, so it's running about 630hp/600tq at the wheels. This setup should be good for a solid 9 second pass....we should see that this Friday.
Im confused. In the video it says tuned by Champion Porsche out of Pompano Beach. I would assume any work that a Porsche dealer does to a car wouldnt void any warranties right? But at the same time, i've always heard that any kind of ecu tune would f*** me out of my cpo warranty. If there is in fact, an ecu tune for sale that doesn't void warranty out there I would be very interested in it. Can you clear the air on this subject?
 
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Im confused. In the video it says tuned by Champion Porsche out of Pompano Beach. I would assume any work that a Porsche dealer does to a car wouldnt void any warranties right? But at the same time, i've always heard that any kind of ecu tune would f*** me out of my cpo warranty. If there is in fact, an ecu tune for sale that doesn't void warranty out there I would be very interested in it. Can you clear the air on this subject?
You need to do a search on this, we recently had several threads going about these tunes. Look for FVD and Softronic tunes as keywords.

The answer to your question re CPO warranty being voided: MAYBE

EDIT: most of those recent discussions over at RL, so do search there first!
 

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No worries, Ill call champion porsche monday, they'll have a definite yes or no.
 

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Wow 10.2 on street tires is incredible. But the trap speed doesn't make sense. Did the driver lift on this pass? With 68's, intercoolers and exhaust running the race gas file I would think it would be trapping 135-136 on a warm day.

Looking forward to seeing what it does Friday.
He didn't lift...the 60' was 1.4 sec. He lost a bit in the top end because of a silly vacuum leak, but that's all fixed up now. We're just waiting for him to get some free time to take a trip back down here and run it again. Otherwise we'll ship it back to him in NY and he'll be able to run it on the local tracks there for sure.

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Im confused. In the video it says tuned by Champion Porsche out of Pompano Beach. I would assume any work that a Porsche dealer does to a car wouldnt void any warranties right? But at the same time, i've always heard that any kind of ecu tune would f*** me out of my cpo warranty. If there is in fact, an ecu tune for sale that doesn't void warranty out there I would be very interested in it. Can you clear the air on this subject?
The car is built by us here at Champion Motorsport. We are a subsidiary company of Champion Porsche. To answer your question about the warranty...to put it bluntly... YES...any upgrades to your car DO effect your factory warranty. Do not listen to anyone who tells you otherwise. However, we offer our own independent warranty which is essentially an "umbrella" that completely covers your car for the length of your factory or CPO warranty. It's not just hype...we actually have it in writing here:
http://championmotorsportonline.com/...yagreement.pdf

If you have any questions, please feel free to get in touch any time.
 
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Thanks Tom for chiming in. Very helpful
 
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Also thanks from me Tom, especially for stating that these modifications do affect warranties.

I'm not able to determine if there are escape clauses in your aftermarket warranty that would preclude coverage when, for instance, scattering a transmission. Not an attorney.

But it's a game changer if standard Porsche or aftermarket warranty coverage is mimicked by your Champion "rider"!

I'd be in for many mods if this is true and if you have a Michigan dealer who would cover me in the unlikely event I have breakdown(s).

Tom, I'd appreciate your candid take on my posting here! Thanks in advance.
 
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Also thanks from me Tom, especially for stating that these modifications do affect warranties.

I'm not able to determine if there are escape clauses in your aftermarket warranty that would preclude coverage when, for instance, scattering a transmission. Not an attorney.

But it's a game changer if standard Porsche or aftermarket warranty coverage is mimicked by your Champion "rider"!

I'd be in for many mods if this is true and if you have a Michigan dealer who would cover me in the unlikely event I have breakdown(s).

Tom, I'd appreciate your candid take on my posting here! Thanks in advance.
There only real "catch" to our warranty is that you have to stick with our upgrade program. In other words, let's say you buy a package from us, but then a few months later you decide to add some other part that didn't come with the kit which would effect performance....the warranty is gone. Classic example of this is methanol injection. We don't sell it with any of our kits, but it clearly effects performance. Since we can't measure the effects on performance from adding the meth injection, we do not warranty it thereafter. But as long as you stick to our program, you're good to go.

If you ask some of our existing customers, you'll find we typically go to any lengths to "make it right" when a situation arises, which is rare...
 
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Tom, how would I obtain warranty service on your products up here in Michigan?

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Tom, how would I obtain warranty service on your products up here in Michigan?

Thanks!
You would just take the car to your regular dealer for service. Most of our parts are direct bolt-ons so any dealer can service the car. If, for some reason, they deny a warranty claim on something because of one of parts we have installed, that's when we step in.
 
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[QUOTE=Bill8411;4063595]You need to do a search on this, we recently had several threads going about these tunes. Look for FVD and Softronic tunes as keywords.

The answer to your question re CPO warranty being voided: MAYBE

EDIT: most of those recent discussions over at RL, so do search there first![/QUOTE

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Amazing car! I wouldn't expect less from CMS
 
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I gave you great sources for you to gather information.
 

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hell yeah !!! i can hate on bunch of BS stuff that does not add up to much when the results speak for themselves !!!

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