997 Turbo vs. 996 Turbo purchase dilemma
#16
Yeah, I don't know why they put it down as a GT3 rs either. From the limited interaction I've had with this dealer, I can say I'm not a fan. Originally they said it would take about 3 hours, and they ended up having the car for over 24 hours, and all they basically did was a visual inspection! I understand why they couldn't drive it, but that kind of puts me in a bad spot as far as figuring out exactly what I'm getting in to. I had planned on spending a few thousand fixing it up upon purchase, I just want to make sure there aren't any surprises like bad turbos, tranny, or anything major.
#17
Enigmatic issues like that are what I'm trying to steer clear of, although I'm not sure if that is entirely possible, haha. What finally led you to find the root of the problem?
#18
But dropping the engine was the final call to find the root cause.
#19
Cool, thanks man, hopefully they can accurately diagnose it the first time and we can avoid the headache.
#20
McKenna, what a bunch of a holes. Did they provide an original estimate for the work? Did they call and advise that the PPI would be $600? How absurd.
Note that most of the items on that report have wildly distorted amounts, e.g the cupholders. Spoiler motors can be an issue, but are not tragic. Coolant problems are expensive. Brakes, tires, clutches, could add to your total.
This is a very high mileage car, regardless of what kind it is. I would not do it unless you are prepared to entertain very expensive issues. As mentioned earlier, cars like this are buying other people's problems.
Note that most of the items on that report have wildly distorted amounts, e.g the cupholders. Spoiler motors can be an issue, but are not tragic. Coolant problems are expensive. Brakes, tires, clutches, could add to your total.
This is a very high mileage car, regardless of what kind it is. I would not do it unless you are prepared to entertain very expensive issues. As mentioned earlier, cars like this are buying other people's problems.
#21
djcooper@rennkit.com
#22
McKenna, what a bunch of a holes. Did they provide an original estimate for the work? Did they call and advise that the PPI would be $600? How absurd.
Note that most of the items on that report have wildly distorted amounts, e.g the cupholders. Spoiler motors can be an issue, but are not tragic. Coolant problems are expensive. Brakes, tires, clutches, could add to your total.
This is a very high mileage car, regardless of what kind it is. I would not do it unless you are prepared to entertain very expensive issues. As mentioned earlier, cars like this are buying other people's problems.
Note that most of the items on that report have wildly distorted amounts, e.g the cupholders. Spoiler motors can be an issue, but are not tragic. Coolant problems are expensive. Brakes, tires, clutches, could add to your total.
This is a very high mileage car, regardless of what kind it is. I would not do it unless you are prepared to entertain very expensive issues. As mentioned earlier, cars like this are buying other people's problems.
#23
996 911 owner seeking to upgrade to a Turbo
I am interested in moving up to a Turbo. I saw a 996 turbo with 445K miles on the odo and I have never been so jealous in my life. I dig the 911 and realize everytime I drive it how much I love driving Porsches and would really like to have a turbo as DD. I still love Boxster/Caymans, but getting a little older starting to appreciate the GT aspect of the 911, the seamless thrust of a turbo and the comfort, luxury and space the 911 offers over the smaller car. At this point a 997 would seem like the obvious choice, but hoping some owners will chime in.
My Porsche owning experience spans about 20 years. I have had a 944 Turbo S, 3 Boxsters (1 S) and a Cayman S and my current 996 911. I am not really into modding, most just had pipes and minor "hobby" type mods. I did do coilovers on the Cayman, but point being, I dont fool around with the much. Other than the 944, all of the cars ran exceptionally well and never had any major probs.
Is the 997 as bullet proof as its predecessors? Also, I am still fairly confident I want a manual, however, the power upgrade from what I am used to is so significant, I want to at least consider PDK. So my primary questions are, reliability of the 997 and the beaten to death 6spd/PDK question. Thanks -Doug
My Porsche owning experience spans about 20 years. I have had a 944 Turbo S, 3 Boxsters (1 S) and a Cayman S and my current 996 911. I am not really into modding, most just had pipes and minor "hobby" type mods. I did do coilovers on the Cayman, but point being, I dont fool around with the much. Other than the 944, all of the cars ran exceptionally well and never had any major probs.
Is the 997 as bullet proof as its predecessors? Also, I am still fairly confident I want a manual, however, the power upgrade from what I am used to is so significant, I want to at least consider PDK. So my primary questions are, reliability of the 997 and the beaten to death 6spd/PDK question. Thanks -Doug
#24
I would lean towards the 997. The 996 interior appears cheap and doesn't give me the feel that your in a special car.. Same goes for the fried egg look for headlights. That said, I find the miles on the 997 a tad high. I agree that a heavily modded car could be troublesome but it sounds like this one was done with a bit of strategy.
Good luck with the decision
Good luck with the decision
My vote? Tiptronic sucks. Hold out for a nice 997 6spd.
On the 997 turbo, or a 996 turbo car for that matter. you are really really going to want a tune and an exhaust with a clutch that can handle it as a minimum, so if you find cars with those mods.....
#25
This on steroids.
I sold my heavily modded M3 when I was pushing it more than driving it.
It was great up until then. After a few, this last fix will set me free I was relay to get the heck out.
BTW-I am done modding. I've had too many bad experiences personally. I buy them how I want them and enjoy them.
And I did.
As long as the aftermarket rims are the correct size I would buy that car. Be careful for wider rims, it can damage the differential. Price makes me a little suspicious.
I sold my heavily modded M3 when I was pushing it more than driving it.
It was great up until then. After a few, this last fix will set me free I was relay to get the heck out.
BTW-I am done modding. I've had too many bad experiences personally. I buy them how I want them and enjoy them.
And I did.
As long as the aftermarket rims are the correct size I would buy that car. Be careful for wider rims, it can damage the differential. Price makes me a little suspicious.
#26
Wow is it particularly difficult to add coolant?
Since they stuck you with a $600 PPI, what's another quart or two of coolant added to the tab or free water? They should've at least called you so you can consult with the current owner.
Since they stuck you with a $600 PPI, what's another quart or two of coolant added to the tab or free water? They should've at least called you so you can consult with the current owner.
#27
a good thorough PPI from an independent Porsche performance shop (with a dyno preferrably a MUstang) is what you need regardless either 996 or 997 to eliminate potential future headaches low or high mileage means nothin it depends on its history on how it was maintained and type of mods no junk!. i'll stay away from a dealer for a PPI. A well tuned good running car with mods is fun and money in your pocket. Also, knowing the real reason (no BS) why the car is for sale is the ticket. Happy motoring!
#28
It is a good dilemma to be in... Not a lot of people can have this decision to make. But just to add to the question at hand. I have owned the 996tt its a real fun car to drive around it but the interior is real bland and outdated. I now own a 997tt its a real blast to drive also the exterior and interior are more pleasing to the eyes. So definitely the 997tt.
#29
That is ridiculous. How do you know they even LOOKED AT IT????? How can you take a car in for ANY service and mis identify a turbo as a GT3??????????
Not saying those issues are not issues, but I would RUN from that place. Beyond unprofessional, that ppi is worthless.
Not saying those issues are not issues, but I would RUN from that place. Beyond unprofessional, that ppi is worthless.
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