Exhaust Feedback - Crackles, Burbles, Pops
#1
Exhaust Feedback - Crackles, Burbles, Pops
Hello all,
I'm new to the forum and have done a lot of searching and reading on here but still need some help on finding the right exhaust for my 997.2TT. There are so many exhausts on the market (Speedtech, Fabspeed, Agency Power, Europipe, GMG, AWE, BBI, FVD, Sharkwerks, Capristo, Milltek, Quicksilver, Akrapovic, Cargraphic, Cobb, Turbi, etc!)
What I'm looking for is a very specific exhaust characteristic: I'm looking for the most dramatic crackles, burbles, and pops during rev-down / off-throttle / deceleration.
This 991.2 (at the 1:00 mark) is almost what I'm looking for, specifically the crackles when off-throttle, with a more bass tone preferred.
I'm looking for comparative info only (XX exhaust has more crackles than YY exhaust), so please feedback if you've heard two or more aftermarket exhausts for our 997TT's. I've read so many posts that say "My exhaust sounds the best because the forum sponsor is very nice and he told me that their exhaust sounds the best!" These type of posts need not apply!
Oh, and here's a picture of my new-to-me car
I'm new to the forum and have done a lot of searching and reading on here but still need some help on finding the right exhaust for my 997.2TT. There are so many exhausts on the market (Speedtech, Fabspeed, Agency Power, Europipe, GMG, AWE, BBI, FVD, Sharkwerks, Capristo, Milltek, Quicksilver, Akrapovic, Cargraphic, Cobb, Turbi, etc!)
What I'm looking for is a very specific exhaust characteristic: I'm looking for the most dramatic crackles, burbles, and pops during rev-down / off-throttle / deceleration.
This 991.2 (at the 1:00 mark) is almost what I'm looking for, specifically the crackles when off-throttle, with a more bass tone preferred.
I'm looking for comparative info only (XX exhaust has more crackles than YY exhaust), so please feedback if you've heard two or more aftermarket exhausts for our 997TT's. I've read so many posts that say "My exhaust sounds the best because the forum sponsor is very nice and he told me that their exhaust sounds the best!" These type of posts need not apply!
Oh, and here's a picture of my new-to-me car
Last edited by HellaHashTags; 11-29-2016 at 01:53 PM.
#2
Sorry but what you're asking is ridiculous.
Do what everyone on here with after market exhaust has done.. go on youtube and listen to a million of them until your ears bleed.
then listen to more versions of the same exhausts with and without straight pipes, and bigger turbos, tunes, etc.
Much of what you are asking is predicated on how the car is setup.
PS-Nice car.
Do what everyone on here with after market exhaust has done.. go on youtube and listen to a million of them until your ears bleed.
then listen to more versions of the same exhausts with and without straight pipes, and bigger turbos, tunes, etc.
Much of what you are asking is predicated on how the car is setup.
PS-Nice car.
#3
The OEM exhaust in the vid sounds very tinny IMO. The crackling on the overrun is all marketing on modern Porsches. In something like an F40 or a Gallardo you have hotter, high velocity exhaust, suddenly followed by cooler, lower velocity gas which make the exhaust crackle. This excitement can easily be replicated by tweaking the ECU of any modern engine. They just command the injectors to squirt a bit of fuel on the exhaust stroke.
I have a Europipe 2 and when the car is up to temperature when at WOT then lift off it occasionally crackles. Its also whistles, is very bassy and barks .
Here's a few vids of a gen 2 turbo with the EP. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFNP0QVlBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xKoUnD21Qw
They also trade used for circa 75% of retail price
http://rennlist.com/forums/parts-mar...r-turbo-s.html
All the exhausts you mention are good. Sound is a very personal thing but could not be happier with EP. Also no cels with EP - no remap needed as per some other after market sports exhausts.
I have a Europipe 2 and when the car is up to temperature when at WOT then lift off it occasionally crackles. Its also whistles, is very bassy and barks .
Here's a few vids of a gen 2 turbo with the EP. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFNP0QVlBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xKoUnD21Qw
They also trade used for circa 75% of retail price
http://rennlist.com/forums/parts-mar...r-turbo-s.html
All the exhausts you mention are good. Sound is a very personal thing but could not be happier with EP. Also no cels with EP - no remap needed as per some other after market sports exhausts.
#4
Sorry but what you're asking is ridiculous.
Do what everyone on here with after market exhaust has done.. go on youtube and listen to a million of them until your ears bleed.
then listen to more versions of the same exhausts with and without straight pipes, and bigger turbos, tunes, etc.
Much of what you are asking is predicated on how the car is setup.
PS-Nice car.
Do what everyone on here with after market exhaust has done.. go on youtube and listen to a million of them until your ears bleed.
then listen to more versions of the same exhausts with and without straight pipes, and bigger turbos, tunes, etc.
Much of what you are asking is predicated on how the car is setup.
PS-Nice car.
I've tried listening to many videos on YouTube and the struggle is real. Due to differences in sound quality, I swear I've seen two different YouTube videos of the same exact set-up produce radically different sounds - it's a crap shoot!
#5
I have a catless 3" Speedtech exhaust on my 997.2 TTS that produces pops and cracks on Decel and sounds great. It has a nice bassy tone as well. The only thing to remember if you go with catless is that you'll have a check engine light unless you get a tune to code it off and also make sure you'll be alright with your state inspection
#7
I suggest that you focus on videos of the 997.2 Turbo because the other Turbo models sound different.
With the 997.1 Turbo you get less cracking and popping whereas the 991.2 Carrera and 991 Turbo have this artificial chatter.
Also note that a 997.2 Turbo without sport chrono sounds less aggressive compared to one with the sport chrono option.
Without the sport chrono button activated its only half the fun.
With a 6speed you have more control over the cracking sound but you won’t hear that huge bang when shifting gears while at full boost. Catless is always louder but illegal most everywhere, over here you’re looking at a 15K fine.
With the 997.1 Turbo you get less cracking and popping whereas the 991.2 Carrera and 991 Turbo have this artificial chatter.
Also note that a 997.2 Turbo without sport chrono sounds less aggressive compared to one with the sport chrono option.
Without the sport chrono button activated its only half the fun.
With a 6speed you have more control over the cracking sound but you won’t hear that huge bang when shifting gears while at full boost. Catless is always louder but illegal most everywhere, over here you’re looking at a 15K fine.
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#8
One exhaust that was omitted from your list is the Innotech Performance Exhaust (iPE) valved system. Enjoy:
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#9
I believe that you will have no luck having the poping sound at shifting like the 991.2. It is a software feature that the 997 plataform ECU don't have.
About exhaust, i'm very happy with Kline. It worths looking at it. Very exotic sound and a unique x-pipe that have minimal exhaust backpressure and turbulence compared to others.
About exhaust, i'm very happy with Kline. It worths looking at it. Very exotic sound and a unique x-pipe that have minimal exhaust backpressure and turbulence compared to others.
#10
I believe that you will have no luck having the poping sound at shifting like the 991.2. It is a software feature that the 997 plataform ECU don't have. About exhaust, i'm very happy with Kline. It worths looking at it. Very exotic sound and a unique x-pipe that have minimal exhaust backpressure and turbulence compared to others.
Good luck and enjoy it the car!
#11
My brother has. 997.2 Turbo with a Tubi exhaust. Car is relatively quiet under normal driving however you can tell it has an exhaust. However under load or wide open throttle sounds like an all out race car with this cracklings and ripping noises. Sounds really good and very tolerable for day to day driving.
#12
Thanks everybody for the feedback; I wanted to update you all on what I chose, why I chose it, and how I like it.
Big shout out to the guys over at Shark Werks over in Fremont CA, both for their product and their customer service.
I ended up choosing their 997.2TT Shark Werks exhaust. Like many of you have, I spent a lot of time browsing the forums and YouTube trying to sample as many exhaust sounds as I could. I narrowed it down to five great choices: Europipe, GMG, Shark Werks, Tubi Street, and Cargraphic Super Sound.
Ultimately, I went with Shark Werks for the following reasons:
* This is the only exhaust that I liked which still retains the OEM cats. For now, I want to retain my factory ECU virginity and factory cats. I still have the upgrade path available if I want to go catless/tune later on.
* It has zero drone, and I mean ZERO. Cruising on the freeway, I can hear the road/tire noise over the exhaust. As the car gets going, the tone of the exhaust starts to get deep and sporty w/ a subtle off-throttle burble. The sound is not boomy or intrusive or ricey. Since it also retains the OEM exhaust tips, this, to me, is pretty much an OEM+ exhaust. It may sound cliche, but this is how the 997.2TT should have come from the factory: like a sports car, not a vacuum.
* They're local and I have great things to say about their customer service. After the initial install of their exhaust, I heard something rattling and they invited me back in right away to take care of it. It turns out it was an issue with a stock rusty exhaust clamp, but they took care of it without any delay or BS. Outstanding customer service.
Thanks again to Shark Werks!
P.S. I was not paid or encouraged to give this review. I'm just a guy trying to help and highlight a great exhaust option for others in this community.
Big shout out to the guys over at Shark Werks over in Fremont CA, both for their product and their customer service.
I ended up choosing their 997.2TT Shark Werks exhaust. Like many of you have, I spent a lot of time browsing the forums and YouTube trying to sample as many exhaust sounds as I could. I narrowed it down to five great choices: Europipe, GMG, Shark Werks, Tubi Street, and Cargraphic Super Sound.
Ultimately, I went with Shark Werks for the following reasons:
* This is the only exhaust that I liked which still retains the OEM cats. For now, I want to retain my factory ECU virginity and factory cats. I still have the upgrade path available if I want to go catless/tune later on.
* It has zero drone, and I mean ZERO. Cruising on the freeway, I can hear the road/tire noise over the exhaust. As the car gets going, the tone of the exhaust starts to get deep and sporty w/ a subtle off-throttle burble. The sound is not boomy or intrusive or ricey. Since it also retains the OEM exhaust tips, this, to me, is pretty much an OEM+ exhaust. It may sound cliche, but this is how the 997.2TT should have come from the factory: like a sports car, not a vacuum.
* They're local and I have great things to say about their customer service. After the initial install of their exhaust, I heard something rattling and they invited me back in right away to take care of it. It turns out it was an issue with a stock rusty exhaust clamp, but they took care of it without any delay or BS. Outstanding customer service.
Thanks again to Shark Werks!
P.S. I was not paid or encouraged to give this review. I'm just a guy trying to help and highlight a great exhaust option for others in this community.
#13
Thanks everybody for the feedback; I wanted to update you all on what I chose, why I chose it, and how I like it.
Big shout out to the guys over at Shark Werks over in Fremont CA, both for their product and their customer service.
I ended up choosing their 997.2TT Shark Werks exhaust. Like many of you have, I spent a lot of time browsing the forums and YouTube trying to sample as many exhaust sounds as I could. I narrowed it down to five great choices: Europipe, GMG, Shark Werks, Tubi Street, and Cargraphic Super Sound.
Ultimately, I went with Shark Werks for the following reasons:
* This is the only exhaust that I liked which still retains the OEM cats. For now, I want to retain my factory ECU virginity and factory cats. I still have the upgrade path available if I want to go catless/tune later on.
* It has zero drone, and I mean ZERO. Cruising on the freeway, I can hear the road/tire noise over the exhaust. As the car gets going, the tone of the exhaust starts to get deep and sporty w/ a subtle off-throttle burble. The sound is not boomy or intrusive or ricey. Since it also retains the OEM exhaust tips, this, to me, is pretty much an OEM+ exhaust. It may sound cliche, but this is how the 997.2TT should have come from the factory: like a sports car, not a vacuum.
* They're local and I have great things to say about their customer service. After the initial install of their exhaust, I heard something rattling and they invited me back in right away to take care of it. It turns out it was an issue with a stock rusty exhaust clamp, but they took care of it without any delay or BS. Outstanding customer service.
Thanks again to Shark Werks!
P.S. I was not paid or encouraged to give this review. I'm just a guy trying to help and highlight a great exhaust option for others in this community.
Big shout out to the guys over at Shark Werks over in Fremont CA, both for their product and their customer service.
I ended up choosing their 997.2TT Shark Werks exhaust. Like many of you have, I spent a lot of time browsing the forums and YouTube trying to sample as many exhaust sounds as I could. I narrowed it down to five great choices: Europipe, GMG, Shark Werks, Tubi Street, and Cargraphic Super Sound.
Ultimately, I went with Shark Werks for the following reasons:
* This is the only exhaust that I liked which still retains the OEM cats. For now, I want to retain my factory ECU virginity and factory cats. I still have the upgrade path available if I want to go catless/tune later on.
* It has zero drone, and I mean ZERO. Cruising on the freeway, I can hear the road/tire noise over the exhaust. As the car gets going, the tone of the exhaust starts to get deep and sporty w/ a subtle off-throttle burble. The sound is not boomy or intrusive or ricey. Since it also retains the OEM exhaust tips, this, to me, is pretty much an OEM+ exhaust. It may sound cliche, but this is how the 997.2TT should have come from the factory: like a sports car, not a vacuum.
* They're local and I have great things to say about their customer service. After the initial install of their exhaust, I heard something rattling and they invited me back in right away to take care of it. It turns out it was an issue with a stock rusty exhaust clamp, but they took care of it without any delay or BS. Outstanding customer service.
Thanks again to Shark Werks!
P.S. I was not paid or encouraged to give this review. I'm just a guy trying to help and highlight a great exhaust option for others in this community.
Congratulations on the new sound. I hope it's all you want it to be.
And now I must demand that you post some videos so we can all enjoy your new purchase!
#15
My porsche macan S is equipped with full iPE exhaust system. That sound is incredible! Specially in the FULL OPEN MODE. INSANE af! I strongly recommend all porsche family can try that haha, cuz every porsche deserves that kinda exhaust system.
I believe that will also fit 991.2 too!!
I believe that will also fit 991.2 too!!