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I actually just picked up a set of Protomotive intercoolers for my car. I looked at AMS, but the carbon fiber ducting is incompatible with my intake setup, and I'm going to use a Y-pipe with blow off valve mounts so the package wasn't that complete for me.

If I were running a VTG based car I would buy the AMS and call it a day. Nothing against Champion, but the AMS package is great.
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Originally Posted by rix
I actually just picked up a set of Protomotive intercoolers for my car. I looked at AMS, but the carbon fiber ducting is incompatible with my intake setup, and I'm going to use a Y-pipe with blow off valve mounts so the package wasn't that complete for me.

If I were running a VTG based car I would buy the AMS and call it a day. Nothing against Champion, but the AMS package is great.
I did the blow off this way ... Found a reducer that works from the jdm crowd ..





Plus using Do88 inlets with the factory box and AMS carbon shrouds we found the cooling/heating curve to be much better than without shrouds and fendrwells, even with methanol it gained heat faster and cooled slower ....

Just a thought...

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Oh ok what tune are you running, I was with protomotive on my 996 turbo but I'm not sure if I should go back with Protomotive or cob and also the injectors are from my GTR the ID 1000cc so later I when I upgrade my turbos I will do the bigger injectors
I'm running Cobb with Sam By Design tune. Its not the most aggressive tune out there but the car ran flawless and he did tweak as much as I wanted. He also knows when to cut you off as he did me lol. I wanted to keep turning it up but he said no and I can appreciate that. If you want something more aggressive I can float some names to you. I have a collection of datalogs from many cars, setups & tuners so I have been able to dissect a lot of data .

And to be clear on the injector in case others are thinking of injectors. You will hit 680-700whp on E70-E85 with the 1kcc but it will be at a high duty cycle by 6.5-7krpm. Technically yes you have enough fuel but from an engineer's stand point I would spec them bigger to run at a lower duty cycle. Using the 1300cc is not to gain more power, its to run them at a better operating point. Soon after 700whp you will run into other limits, the pumps themselves, your clutch (if you have a Sachs 2.5 type for example), your rods if you want to run full torque at mid engine speeds etc etc. Obviously there are many recipes out there, that's just my take.
 

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Who has the best deal on the AMS intercoolers kit
 
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Cheers M3! can';t wait to dial you in on the new snails!

AMS in stock among others here guys. After we see what suits each set up and budget best I am always ready to bundle the best price and support that I can. That includes tuning! Over the years we have MANY under our belt with just about every configuration
 

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Originally Posted by y996t
Who has the best deal on the AMS intercoolers kit
Last year when I shopped around Sam had the best deal, I would start there.
 
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Originally Posted by 99Gdzra
Which ones are you leaning towards?
honetly i was thinking GT2RS or SRM . what are you thinking ?
 
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Originally Posted by y996t
Who has the best deal on the AMS intercoolers kit
Best advice is buy from Sam. The guy literally doesn't sleep, and parts show up FAST. He's got it figured out, and he'll actually sabotage his own sale if he doesn't think you're buying the right part. One of the best guys in this market. I buy everything I possibly can from him. Voting with your wallet, it's important.
 
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Thanks for the post!
People thought I pulled off the longest injector install in history! I'm only just getting started! LOL
 
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That's an interesting solution. I don't think we have the option to buy the best solution right now truth be told. Steve Ott @ Driversource is in charge of my project right now, I feel like I am in good hands.

I did the new 3D printed protomotive fenderwell intakes and intercoolers. Going to do the BOVs on the Y-pipe because I want to see them. Closer to the throttle body the better anyway, from a reversion perspective.

I'd like to revisit the intake situation, and do air/water intercoolers but the vendor I was working on the Air/Water with totally dropped the ball. Part of my historically long build cycle. In the mean time I will continue to slum it in my CTS-V Wagon. I'm blessed to have a home office consultancy business, just crossed 15,000 miles the other day. I'm patient .

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I did the blow off this way ... Found a reducer that works from the jdm crowd ..





Plus using Do88 inlets with the factory box and AMS carbon shrouds we found the cooling/heating curve to be much better than without shrouds and fendrwells, even with methanol it gained heat faster and cooled slower ....

Just a thought...

Cheers
 
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Originally Posted by bigrpowr
honetly i was thinking GT2RS or SRM . what are you thinking ?
I'm honestly leaning toward the AMS coolers. They just look topnotch!
 
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Here's a picture of my new AMS intercoolers next to my Evoms intercoolers. HUUUUGE difference in temperature stability.


 
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Let's get a group buy for the AMS intercoolers
 
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Let's get a group buy for the AMS intercoolers
I'd be in on that! Great idea... Maybe Sam will revisit this thread. 😬
 
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