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Old 08-20-2008, 03:27 PM
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I think there was another thread about this, but there are discounts to be had on 2009's. I did what I always do: I sent an email to every dealer in the state asking for their best deal. Within a couple days I had gotten a reply offering 4% off MSRP for a September build.

The email-bomb technique always works for me. I don't waste time with the phone, and I don't bother replying to people who won't give a number. It only takes a few minutes and in my experience is very effective.
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'09 discounts

In the NYC area getting a substantial discount on a '09 Carrera seems to be no problem. Must have something to do with 76,000 Wall Street jobs evaporating. Try the dealers near NYC - you may be very pleasantly surprised - I sure was.
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I---They would have to drop production a lot to prevent this happening in the USA, car sales are down, way down and people are not buying.
I doubt you will see this, because it changes the whole economy of scale concept for Porsche. Vendors predicate pricing based upon certain quantities. If a manufacturer changes the purchase quantity then the supplier will readjust his price, and the manufacturing cost to Porsche then rises.

If you are a "got to have it" person you will pay top dollar. If you can wait a while you will see price concessions.

I spent 3 hours at a local Porsche dealership a week ago, and myself and my friend and one couple were there all that time!

Business is not great and their lot was very slim in inventory.

Be patient, keep a poker face, and you will see concessions even on ordered cars!

I will not buy if I don't get my price, and if more do that, there will be concessions.

Forget leasing. Buy the freekin car. You have more leverage.
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how about this one

I got an offer of 5% off MSRP from two different dealers and ordered the car for November delivery. Dealers mark ups are 13% on the 911 so there is plenty of room to negotiate. If they don't meet your price simply go elsewhere where they will.
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If I had a nickel for everytime I heard that...Miami would seem to be a hot spot. I know in CA, you aren't getting 5% off or anywhere close. Before this turns into a "i've got a bigger discount competition", everyone realizes the mark up is 12%. The issue is that there are 40% less cars in the US to mark up 12%, yet overhead stays the same. Congrats on your deal. Post pics when you pick up the car in a few months.

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I got an offer of 5% off MSRP from two different dealers and ordered the car for November delivery. Dealers mark ups are 13% on the 911 so there is plenty of room to negotiate. If they don't meet your price simply go elsewhere where they will.
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I am not in the market, but if porsche reduces sending cars to the US to stabilize cost than a lot of dealers and sales people here are gonna hurt. Right? Maybe they are already.
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I have been to most dealers in the Metro NYC/NJ area and they are have been out of 2006-07's and have bloated 08's. I think Mass has a point,US is a very cheap place to buy a P-Car, overseas buyers are having a field day buying 06'-08's and shipping them back overseas. The swing is aprrox 30kto 40k in their favor respective on local. Hard for the private seller to sell to an overseas buyer, not really worth the trouble IMO.

True, I spent an hour in a few dealers a couple of weeks ago, no one came in, and it was SAT. I'll wait the FL out and a get used 06/07 and see what happens. A 40% decrease in cars coming in should help these years the most in terms of holding their value...no? GL to all who have put their FL orders in, you'll be driving a rare bird indeed..atleast for awhile

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I'm shooting for 8% off. I've bought 3 cars from the same family of dealerships in the last 3 months, so I'm expecting them to give me an exceptional deal. Do you guys think my 8% is realistic?
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That is correct. I've spoken to the GM at the 2 largest dealers in CA in person and their financial model literally changed overnight. Honestly, I still think at MSRP the car is at an amazing price and the reality is, cars are hardly considered an investment and Porsche is one of the most emotional purchases I've ever made, as I'd imagine it's the same for most of you.

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I think that is outrageous. Invoice is at most 12%; sometimes less depending on how many options. If you get that, that is great for you.

No offense, but in my experience, most people seem to brag about the deal they got and in many instances I've later learned it was not accurate. Not saying that about you in any respect. I hope you get 8%; let me know how it goes. I will tell you that the dealer I went to gave a previous customer $500 off an 09 order and this is his 11th Porsche from that dealer in the past 10 years. That is consistent to what I'm hearing in South CA.



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My deal for 4% off is in CA. Perhaps I got lucky, but it really wasn't that hard. Of course, maybe dealers are upping their prices now.
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in my experience, most people seem to brag about the deal they got and in many instances I've later learned it was not accurate.

Interesting. How did you "learn" this? i.e., (1) how it is you learned someone claimed a certain price on a car; and (2) how did you figure it out that particular person's claims were false?
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Good point - makes me feel even better about the price I got on my order! All I have to do now is wait for next May when it gets delivered (could have had it sooner, but I decided to wait for next summer and save pennies in the meantime)... it's hard to wait though - I spend all my time looking at photos and reviewing the options over and over (and over!)

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I have been to most dealers in the Metro NYC/NJ area and they are have been out of 2006-07's and have bloated 08's. I think Mass has a point,US is a very cheap place to buy a P-Car, overseas buyers are having a field day buying 06'-08's and shipping them back overseas. The swing is aprrox 30kto 40k in their favor respective on local. Hard for the private seller to sell to an overseas buyer, not really worth the trouble IMO.

True, I spent an hour in a few dealers a couple of weeks ago, no one came in, and it was SAT. I'll wait the FL out and a get used 06/07 and see what happens. A 40% decrease in cars coming in should help these years the most in terms of holding their value...no? GL to all who have put their FL orders in, you'll be driving a rare bird indeed..atleast for awhile
I love looking at cars in general, most high end car dealers are fairly empty these days. Problem I have is some sales people still pitch what they are selling as hard to get, esp when it is a new facelift/model that is coming in. I can understand the urgency to make a sales, but consumer aren’t stupid about the current economic out look. There are a lot of 08 sitting on the lot, it will be interesting to see what those will sell for by end of the year. It will be so nice to hear a sale person say - it is slow, it is a good time to get a car if you are in the market for one. One sales person told me the deal he cam make for me is that he will not add a mark up on mine order...
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--- One sales person told me the deal he cam make for me is that he will not add a mark up on mine order...
This is exactly the point I was previously making, and if you chase after it now this is the response you'll get.

See what allocations there are in the next few months and see how sales go.

They have 09 Cayenne's on the floor and they are staying there.

I would not expect a great rush of 997 sales either.

As to dealer marups, 8%-10% is not accurate. There is a greater margin and then Porsche has sales incentives, etc. for the dealers.

In the boat business dealers would get a 15% discount on the hull and 25%-40% on the accessories.

So when you start optioning a car the dealer's margin climbs.

I am not suggesting they give the cars away but I believe dealers will need to offer more to get buyers.
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