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Old 12-12-2008, 03:00 AM #1  
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Brake upgrade after install Supercharger !?

Please advice which is a good brake upgrade after installing SC on 997s ? I don't want to spend the money for Porsche ceramic brake !
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Please advice which is a good brake upgrade after installing SC on 997s ? I don't want to spend the money for Porsche ceramic brake !
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You might look into the 997 GT3 front brake upgrade. 6 pot calipers & 350mm rotors. There has been loads of discussion on brake upgrades. GL
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Much thanks ! I hope it is a bolt-on.
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Suncoast Porsche has made a GT3 bolt on kit using GT3 and 997TT parts to fit the 997S. I think they are very close to coming up with a rear kit as well.
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How long have you had the supercharger upgrade? What's the driving experience? Whose product did you go with and who did the install?
Just how happy are you??

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Please advice which is a good brake upgrade after installing SC on 997s ? I don't want to spend the money for Porsche ceramic brake !
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I think that you can go with upgrading the pads first. Unless you track your car hard, you'll be fine.

However, I'm assuming you have the larger red Carrera S brakes. Anything less, and I'd upgrade.
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Heck,

I just sold my supercharger and my big Brembos (6 piston with 380mm rotors) are for sale for a very good price. The rotors will need to be replaced sooner than later, but the pads have never been opened. Save 50%!

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Is there something wrong with your stock brakes? Adding a supercharger has nothing to do with what brakes you need
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I'm going to disagree in theory. Common tuning practice is that "You must increase the slow if you increase the go." My car will do 25 more mph down the back straight at VIR than a naturally aspirated 3.8. If I want to get on the brakes at the same point on the track as him, then I'm going to have to have much more substantial brakes. If I have to get on the brakes much earlier, then it takes away a percentage of the benefits of the supercharger in the first place.

Every time someone rides with me on the track they make the comment "Good brakes!" I get that, and "I can't believe how this car rotates". Waaaay more often than "This car hauls ass in a straight line!"
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To answer a few questions posted.
- i went for the group buy of the VF supercharger.
- Nothing is wrong with my existing brakes (still under 20,000 miles).
- sorry missed out your 6-piston brake sale.

I would think that it is good to have more stopping power (not just for track use) just in case I need to stop & avoid an accident !
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I'm going to disagree in theory. Common tuning practice is that "You must increase the slow if you increase the go." My car will do 25 more mph down the back straight at VIR than a naturally aspirated 3.8. If I want to get on the brakes at the same point on the track as him, then I'm going to have to have much more substantial brakes. If I have to get on the brakes much earlier, then it takes away a percentage of the benefits of the supercharger in the first place.

Every time someone rides with me on the track they make the comment "Good brakes!" I get that, and "I can't believe how this car rotates". Waaaay more often than "This car hauls ass in a straight line!"
The weakest link in the braking system in a Porsche is the tire grip. The stock brakes far excced the grip of the rubber. The only reason you would need bigger brakes is for heat dissipation during heavy track use. If someone tracks their car often and aggressively, then bigger brakes can help, but for the weekend tracker and all street drivings, the stock brakes are more than sufficient and will stop the tires from rotating as well as the biggest brakes available will.
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To answer a few questions posted.
- i went for the group buy of the VF supercharger.
- Nothing is wrong with my existing brakes (still under 20,000 miles).
- sorry missed out your 6-piston brake sale.

I would think that it is good to have more stopping power (not just for track use) just in case I need to stop & avoid an accident !
Congrats on the group buy! That's a steal. Waaaay less than I paid.

And, you didn't miss out on my brakes. As far as I know, I have a lot of PMs but not a buyer yet. They're still available.

More stopping power is good on the street too, but not any more from effect of the SC. You just want more whenever you can.
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You are very correct on tires rotating ! My car is stock now and with the Toyo Proxes R888 tires on, when I stop - the abs is always on ! (no tire grip ?). How to improve (change back to stock Michelin tires) ?
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The weakest link in the braking system in a Porsche is the tire grip. The stock brakes far excced the grip of the rubber. The only reason you would need bigger brakes is for heat dissipation during heavy track use. If someone tracks their car often and aggressively, then bigger brakes can help, but for the weekend tracker and all street drivings, the stock brakes are more than sufficient and will stop the tires from rotating as well as the biggest brakes available will.
I bought the Brembos because I was fading my stock brakes on backroads (I live in the mountains) all the time. I'd have to stop and take a 10 minute brake EVERY DAY on the way to work. That sucked. I got the Brembos, and forgot about fade. Granted, on the track, by the end of a hard 30 minute session, there's more pedal travel. But they're always there. My concluding moment when I decided to get the Brembos was when I was at CMP and my pedal went to the floor in the hairpin after the back straight (with the kink in it). I e-braked my way out of disaster there, pulled the car off the track, put it in the trailer, and ordered some Brembos. Problem solved.
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You are very correct on tires rotating ! My car is stock now and with the Toyo Proxes R888 tires on, when I stop - the abs is always on ! (no tire grip ?). How to improve (change back to stock Michelin tires) ?
No no no no!

Those tires (the R888s) are wonderful. That's threshold braking. You want to hit your abs sensor with a quick but firm 'roll on' of the brakes, then lift your big toe up. It will keep the braking power at the top of its abilities, just at the threshold and abs won't be kicked in. Lift your toe up just to the point where abs chills out. Start doing this far back from the turn at first, then work your way up closer and closer. This way, you're braking consistently and you find your real braking point.
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