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sometimes, during high wind, i even feel the car jerking side to side. This happens when i'm driving on straight road, and not in twisties. I really don't know if this is normal. Maybe my car is a defect and cannot perform aerodynamically? I don't know if i'm making any sense here.
sometimes, during high wind, i even feel the car jerking side to side. This happens when i'm driving on straight road, and not in twisties. I really don't know if this is normal. Maybe my car is a defect and cannot perform aerodynamically? I don't know if i'm making any sense here.
What is your VIN sequence number? I saw in Autoweek that a handful of 09's had the engines set four inches further behind the rear wheels
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sometimes, during high wind, i even feel the car jerking side to side. This happens when i'm driving on straight road, and not in twisties. I really don't know if this is normal. Maybe my car is a defect and cannot perform aerodynamically? I don't know if i'm making any sense here.
You're going to figuratively drive yourself nuts.
1) go to a dealer or race shop or PCA and find someone who knows how to drive a Porsche test drive yours.
2) listen to him
3) It's going to take several DE days, not just one
4) Don't waste a cent on suspension mods until you've done #s 1-3
5) Good Luck
Can’t stress enough the importance in seating position in a 911. One has to pull the seat up and have the back in full up-right position with the steering wheel closer to the chest. That way, instead of “hanging on” to the steering wheel, you’re working with it and feeling the delicacy in the 911’s unique balance.
Most performance cars today, including the M3 tend to push as a default factory setting. It is how you work the front end as well as when and how you apply the throttle that will determine the car’s on limit behavior. The 911 has a very unique platform, if you can learn to get it right (in using its weight distribution as an advantage), it could be very satisfying. As others have suggested...take the effort to do some DE's.
You're not feeling anything unusual relative to the 911 platform. When static, the car has a majority of its weight on the rear axle. Under acceleration, that only shifts to a greater rear bias, resulting in the on-throttle understeer all stock 911's display, and the nervous steering feel you mention. But, it is that same weight distribution that gives the car such great braking performance, and, grip on corner exit after correcting for the understeer. A combination of some trail braking and/or a gentle lift after turn in will allow the car to rotate, and, lets you get back under heavy throttle. It is a driving style that would put a high hp front engine car into a spin, so, very different that your M3 technique. It sounds like your experience so far, is driving each car at a point safely under its handling limits. At that level, the M3 has enough understeer that, combined with its weight distribution, it feels very secure. The 911 will feel nervous under that same condition due to the light front. You will learn to manage that with throttle and brake.
sometimes, during high wind, i even feel the car jerking side to side. This happens when i'm driving on straight road, and not in twisties. I really don't know if this is normal. Maybe my car is a defect and cannot perform aerodynamically? I don't know if i'm making any sense here.
I exactly have felt the same way before but now the feeling is gone. (Dont ask how I got rid of it, I have no idea) The feeling is really hard to describe. Its like your car is shifting from side to side. I also was thinking if my car was defected but luckily the feeling is gone, pheww .
Get a performance aligment, changes the car dramatically.
They come from the factory set up to understeer which may be the "light" feeling you have from the front of the car.
On stock suspension I was able to get -1 deg camber up front and -2 deg in the rear and now the car turns in beautifully and the understeer i had before is gone.
it just sounds like you're comparing something you're accustomed to with something you're unaccustomed to. You were probably used to compensating for driving dynamics with the M3 without thinking about it.
1) go to a dealer or race shop or PCA and find someone who knows how to drive a Porsche test drive yours.
2) listen to him
3) It's going to take several DE days, not just one
4) Don't waste a cent on suspension mods until you've done #s 1-3
5) Good Luck
DKSU, a lot of people are having fun at your expense. This one quote is spot on. All cars drive differently; different way to solve the same issues of how to handle.
911s are quite different than other cars which you have driven. Better in some ways and worse in others. Once you learn what is needed to drive the car properly, you should really start to appreciate just what a fun and capable car you have.
Get some instruction. It will do more for your enjoyment and understanding than anything else. I, myself thought I was pretty good. I learned more in two days of DI at Skip Barber than I had after 30+ years of driving.
I used to own an M3 and used to think that the M3 was a good ride.....until I drove a Carrera. To me, the Carrera out performs the M3 any day.
Agreed. I believe something is wrong with his setup. I've attend many driving schools, and the porsche feels even better than the M3 and the limit is much higher than my modded M3s. I love the way the front end turns in.
I feel like as soon as I let go off wheel, the car would just shoot straight forward into the ditch.
Is this a trick question? If you let go of the steering wheel in a turn, absolutely the car would start straightening and go off the road. Why would it not?
Both hands on the wheel. Is that not how you had to drive the M3?
I had an '06 E46 M3 Cabrio and you are correct. The Porsche is a totally different driving experience....... I have a '09 Targa 4S and it requires that I pay attention to her or else..... The PDK unit is great but 6 speed is just a different animal...
You cant drive the 911 like your M3 and compare, you need to make some 'adjustments' and like already mentioned a DE would be a good investment.
Coming from BMW M cars and Evo's I know what you mean though, the Porsche comes alive when pushed closer to its limits, the rest of the time the M3 and even Evo IX IMO felt more planted but attacking a series of bends the Porsche comes alive and frankly feels second to nothing Ive ever driven...just a shame thats less than 1% of the time behind the wheel.
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