997 2005-2012 911 C2, C2S, C4, C4S, GTS, Targa and Cabriolet Model Discussion.

Sport exhaust speed cutout

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 07-22-2014, 10:37 AM
Sailingfun's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Nc
Posts: 41
Rep Power: 11
Sailingfun is on a distinguished road
Sport exhaust speed cutout

I have searched and come up with lots of threads but nothing specific to the 997.1. I find the speed cutout on the sport exhaust obnoxious. I do however want to be a good neighbor so just pulling the plug at the. Engine is not a option. Lots of info on the 996 about cutting the pink speed sense wire to the relay. Anyone have a link to a DIY for that on the 997. For those who have done it any issues?
George
 
  #2  
Old 07-22-2014, 11:34 AM
jhbrennan's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 5,259
Rep Power: 768
jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Sailingfun
I have searched and come up with lots of threads but nothing specific to the 997.1. I find the speed cutout on the sport exhaust obnoxious. I do however want to be a good neighbor so just pulling the plug at the. Engine is not a option. Lots of info on the 996 about cutting the pink speed sense wire to the relay. Anyone have a link to a DIY for that on the 997. For those who have done it any issues?
George
Pull the plug...PSE is not that loud. I live in a closed community and have never had any complaints. I'd be leery of cutting any wires.
 
  #3  
Old 07-22-2014, 12:39 PM
StormRune's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 502
Rep Power: 86
StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !
As jhbrennan states, I've found that the sound level outside of the car is not as loud as you'd think from inside. I've been quite surprised in most cases when I've stood outside my own car and had someone drive away both taking it easy and under throttle when testing the different exhausts I've had.

If you haven't done so, get someone to drive it for you and I think you'll find that the neighbors won't have anything to complain about. Remember that the Porsche exhausts are designed to meet pretty aggressive TUV standards in Europe and are really quite well behaved... even the PSE.
 
  #4  
Old 07-22-2014, 07:10 PM
Steve997S's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,075
Rep Power: 89
Steve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by StormRune
ARemember that the Porsche exhausts are designed to meet pretty aggressive TUV standards in Europe and are really quite well behaved... even the PSE.
As FYI, TUV is only in Germany and only has to do with product safety.
 
  #5  
Old 07-22-2014, 07:21 PM
jhbrennan's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 5,259
Rep Power: 768
jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !jhbrennan Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Steve997S
As FYI, TUV is only in Germany and only has to do with product safety.
Not just safety...also includes environmental testing including noise.
 
  #6  
Old 07-22-2014, 08:12 PM
StormRune's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 502
Rep Power: 86
StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !StormRune Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Steve997S
As FYI, TUV is only in Germany and only has to do with product safety.
So I did some poking around. TUV is actually a company that handles certification of products with a lot of "safety" related rules for vehicle and other product manufacturers. In Germany, they are also the company that handles all individual vehicle inspections to insure they are also adhering to EU product safety rules. Of course, loud exhausts are considered dangerous.

The EU noise standards are enforced throughout the EU, and TUV happens to take care of this in Germany but also has a presence in other countries.

Here is an interesting chart showing the progression of the noise limit laws in the EU over time: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/secto...m-noise_en.pdf. You can see that since 1996 EU vehicles have been limited to a sound level of 74 decibels (not sure where that is measured from).

Here is another interesting link showing the intention to decrease this further for combustion engines while also requiring noise from electric vehicles: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-14-363_en.htm
 
  #7  
Old 07-22-2014, 09:49 PM
Steve997S's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,075
Rep Power: 89
Steve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond reputeSteve997S has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by jhbrennan
Not just safety...also includes environmental testing including noise.
In this context, noise is only an issue if one were to modify the exhaust from OEM. As OEM, it's not an issue, as everything is designed to meet EU standards (which isn't TUV). In Germany, if you buy a car part which needs TUV approval, it comes with the TUV certificate (as the part maker had the part TUV certified in advance), and you have to go to a TUV station and have them certify the part was installed correctly and being used as intended. Germany is not car mod friendly.
 
  #8  
Old 07-23-2014, 12:13 AM
Sailingfun's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Nc
Posts: 41
Rep Power: 11
Sailingfun is on a distinguished road
I have had the car driven by to listen. I would prefer to keep control of the exhaust. No one has cut the pink wire?
G
 
  #9  
Old 07-29-2014, 08:35 AM
away's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lansdale, PA
Posts: 290
Rep Power: 25
away will become famous soon enough
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
phil_m
991
4
08-26-2015 03:08 AM
Phoenix604
Automobiles For Sale
0
08-19-2015 10:39 PM
HolmaN
997
3
08-19-2015 07:32 PM



You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Sport exhaust speed cutout



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:15 AM.