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Old 07-10-2008, 04:35 PM
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ZR1 Nurburgring Video

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Looks like he caught air a couple of times. Looks like a handfull at the limit, or maybe it's because it is sprung like a street car? Pretty impressive for an "engineer". Sounds cool.
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Just wait to they get a C6R driver in there....
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that car is a monster
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From the wheel movement and car movements the ZR1 looks to be far more stable and composed than both the Zonda and GTR (low and high speed). I guess thats proof that the much hyped about Magnaride suspension works. Even with the headwind its also interesting to note that the 638hp ZR1 was only able to reach 179mph on the long straight, whereas the 480hp GTR reached 180mph.

I would say that with a better driver *cough* C6R driver *cough* they would have a far better time, at times I feel that Jim Mero was taking some very conservative lines. It's also funny watching him throw his hands up in the air when he does something wrong like taking a very wide line or hitting the limiter.

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^ yep, he knows he's taken seconds off when he does that...
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The ZR1... woot woot
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Pretty damn good lap!

Now, someone send an ACR on the 'Ring with a driver like Archer at the wheel
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seems like it doesn't rev as high as the Z06, but it sure sounds nice.
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several lap times

7:31 --- 164.38 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) www.caranddriver.com/previews/14155/first-drive-2008-porsche-911-gt2.html
7:32.18 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-am-Ring_422642.html
7:32.44 163.91 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.88 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=83550
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=142508
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto oct,17-18 05) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=75219
7:35* -- 162.86 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation) www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0712_2008_nissan_gt_r
7:35 --- 162.86 km/h -- Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01(08) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=150345
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507838_13987.hbs
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h -- Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS * www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/nsx-laps-ring-unofficially-at-7-37/
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507671_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Nissan R35 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, slick cut tyres, track partially wet www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123066?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*#40
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Ferrari 430 Scuderia, 510 PS/1402 kg (sport auto 07/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=160225
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=140084
www.sportauto-online.de/aktuell_U_sport/on-line/hxcms_article_507063_14469.hbs
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1690 kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 03/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR, Klaus Ludwig www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-auf-der-Nordschleife_45763.html
7:40* -- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.87 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04) www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.52 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h –- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.52 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02) www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php
7:42.9 - 160.21 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&mID=1384471&l=d
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.17 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,00 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44* -- 159.83 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno, www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071017/FREE/71017001/1065
7:44 --- 159.83 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.48 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to www.caranddriver.com/previews/12956/first-drive-mercedes-clk63-amg-black-series.html
7:45* -- 159.48 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:45*-- 159.48 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=137437
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.14 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.14 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=136632
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=134701
7:47 --- 158.80 km/h –- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=111663
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Holy crap that's fast! I can't even imagine going that fast around the Ring. Cool side-by-side video too.

I can't wait to see Jan make some laps!
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Pretty damn good lap!

Now, someone send an ACR on the 'Ring with a driver like Archer at the wheel

That cant happen because that would settle all these ring arguments. The ACR would go straight to the top of the ladder.
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Yeah, forget the GTR. I'm more interested in zr-1 and ACR comparos.

After all they are two cars in the same league.
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Yeah, forget the GTR. I'm more interested in zr-1 and ACR comparos.

After all they are two cars in the same league.
Not really, the ZR1 is a more luxurious and higher horsepower version on the ZO6. The ACR is a stripped down track car. Apples and oranges IMO.
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