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Old 10-29-2014, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JB7
The Vantage is a wonderful car and I definitely don't want to lose the feel or intention of the car, just a bit more grunt, a little lower stance and a few cosmetic goodies. Honestly I would probably do the same to a V12 car.
I'd do the same thing with a V12V. As soon as I got it, I'd look at it and think, "Well crap, now I have to start modding all over again."
 
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I'd do the same thing with a V12V. As soon as I got it, I'd look at it and think, "Well crap, now I have to start modding all over again."
Haha!! It's a sickness isn't it?!!
 
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Haha!! It's a sickness isn't it?!!
It really is! I had a Subaru STi that I built - the thing was a beast! I ended up selling it and getting a 4Runner instead because I was going to keep dumping money into the STi. A couple months later I looked at my 4Runner and thought to myself, "You know.... I could lift this thing."
 
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What does that mean?

Having owned both, I would say they are about the same in their ability to 'rev out' - that is, I was always wishing for another 1 or 2K rpm in both

I know which one sounded better to me at the rev limiter or, for that matter, at idle...
simply that the v12 has a rev limit of 6900 rpm I believe and the v8 of 7300. They fixed the top end with the v12s, which revs north of 7k...
 
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simply that the v12 has a rev limit of 6900 rpm I believe and the v8 of 7300. They fixed the top end with the v12s, which revs north of 7k...
The maximum engine speed of both the V12 Vantage and the V12 Vantage S is 7,000 RPM. For the V8/S/GT/N430, the maximum engine speed is 7,300 RPM.
 
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
The maximum engine speed of both the V12 Vantage and the V12 Vantage S is 7,000 RPM. For the V8/S/GT/N430, the maximum engine speed is 7,300 RPM.
car and driver reported the v12 vantage's redline at 6800 and the v12 vantage s at 7k. you may be right though. without a displacement increase, however, usually the path to more power is higher revs; ie sls black series.
 
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According to AM's website, max HP from the V12S is at 6750 rpm. (Note that max power and redline aren't always the same)

Based on my dynos as well as others I've seen, the V8's power is still climbing at 7300 rpm redline.
 
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Originally Posted by telum01
According to AM's website, max HP from the V12S is at 6750 rpm.

Based on my dynos as well as others I've seen, the V8's power is still climbing at 7300 rpm redline.
Yep
BR raise it to 7600 rpm on their packages
Mine is 7800 rpm
 
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Originally Posted by mikey k
Yep
BR raise it to 7600 rpm on their packages
Mine is 7800 rpm
And now we're back to modifying! I need a silly high redline. I'd love to touch 8k
 
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Originally Posted by maroli
car and driver reported the v12 vantage's redline at 6800 and the v12 vantage s at 7k. you may be right though. without a displacement increase, however, usually the path to more power is higher revs; ie sls black series.
My information comes straight from the specifications section of Aston Martin V12 Vantage and V12 Vantage S owner's manuals, not from some magazine. Both cars have the same redline.
 
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Originally Posted by telum01
And now we're back to modifying! I need a silly high redline. I'd love to touch 8k
I hear ya. It's why I love my RS5. It has a smaller engine, 4.2L v8 N/A and redlines at 8500RPM. When you get the revs above 5000 the RS5 really wants to takeoff. Both are fun cars with similar engines, but very different to drive.
 
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Originally Posted by karlfranz
My information comes straight from the specifications section of Aston Martin V12 Vantage and V12 Vantage S owner's manuals, not from some magazine. Both cars have the same redline.
interesting. what do they quote peak power at (rpm-wise) for both?
 
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Originally Posted by maroli
interesting. what do they quote peak power at (rpm-wise) for both?
Even more interesting is that the owner's manuals for the 2010 and 2012 V12V show different figures even though the spec didn't change. This could explain why Car & Driver quoted the figures you mention.

V12V 2010MY:




V12V 2012MY:




V12VS 2014MY:
 
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