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Old 02-12-2009, 12:16 PM #31  
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Does anyone know how much that P40 20 in rear weighs compared to the P40 19 in?
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The genuine HRE P40 20" rear wheels weigh about 2 pounds more than their 19" counterparts.
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So do these guys tell their customers that the wheels are knock offs to save them a few bucks. Or do they price them as HRE prices?
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So do these guys tell their customers that the wheels are knock offs to save them a few bucks. Or do they price them as HRE prices?
Why sell knockoffs in the first place and risk the reputation the have built over the past 10 years?
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I believe they copy a lot of people's wheels. Their celeb and older customers are typically not forum types so I doubt they would ever find out.
Going to talk it over with the owner over the weekend so they know whats going on with the wheels they are buying.
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Once the car is on the used car market they tell everyone they are HREs. I've had guys show me there HREs and I've had to tell them they are fake. Not good, the worst part is the fakes are heavy and structurally not as strong.
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Once the car is on the used car market they tell everyone they are HREs. I've had guys show me there HREs and I've had to tell them they are fake. Not good, the worst part is the fakes are heavy and structurally not as strong.
what a shame....
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...since he's getting HRE reps
This will all be clarified soon.
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let me chime in real quick and bring some clarity to this thread....
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I DID NOT BUY THESE WHEELS THINKING THAT THEY WERE HRE'S. Platinum Motorsport never ever told me that they were selling me HRE wheels. I will read through this thread thoroughly but I'm not really on this forum that often and I will not edit except for grammar, just say what I need to say now and then put whatever needs to be out there, out there.

I heard about this thread through an acquaintance of mine who takes some amazing photos and is friends of friends..... so he linked me and he was concerned, so I wanted to diffuse any discrepancy about PM to anyone. I have zero affiliation with Platinum Motorsport other then the fact that I am a loyal customer and I live by the creed: "the customer is always right" As a customer of theirs since 2004. let me introduce myself...... since I can remember, I've always been a connoisseur of fine exotics and european vehicles to tuner parts. I've owned almost everything you can think of exotic wise, outside a few things like a veyron, etc.... nobody ever gave me anything in life and I've always worked hard and hustled/grinded out any luxury item I own. not even really a swinging door has opened my way, I had to break these doors down. I had made everything happen on my own.
Since the age of 8 going to concours de elegance(spelling?) exotic car shows from Newport Beach to Pebble Beach and following the latest and greatest, I always had an eye for high end vehicles from the Ferrari Daytona to even respect for the Datsun 510s and mazda RX-3's from growing up in the SUPERJAP era in the late 70's, early 80's (races @ dodger stadium to nissei week and cherry blossom in little tokyo) I'm now 36 years of age.

I am a celebrity jeweler who's clients range from michael jackson to tom cruise to paris hilton to almost any single rapper you can think of... so my eye for detail with diamonds and gold go hand and hand with my cars.
NOW. from what I gather, since I haven't talked to anyone at platinum yet (I literally just got home from a day with my family) I believe Sam their marketing director who is VERY OVER WORKED AND EXTREMELY BUSY(not an excuse, just the truth) made an honest mistake by saying these are HRE wheels on my R8.

1. this picture is pretty old. maybe 5 months old.
2. when I'm there at Platinum every week, I see sam and say hi and leave, we don't need to talk too much, I don't want to bug him and there are reasons why he could have made the mistake of thinking these are HRE wheels.
3. Sam hasn't shot my M5 which was the first M5 they did a white time attack on and had that storm trooper look to it. it's been almost 7 months and neither of us has had time to remember to get it on the site. and it's won awards @ car shows....

when I first got this car, as with everycar, I never want 48 hours or more to pass by without having feet(rims.... I can't stand when dorky nerds who try to spit street jargon call wheels "shoes", umm those would be tires!) on my whip. I almost will buy the wheels first before I even get the car just because I'm that spazzed out about it. So with the R8, I spent countless days and missed out on work thinking of what wheel I wanted on it and couldn't find one that I was in love with. so meanwhile, I had them matte black powder coat the stocks.....
HRE was supposed to promo some wheels for me for sema and even earlier in exchange by showing off the car at shows etc.... they bull****ted and took forever and honesty, I hate to wait, don't matter how good the quality is. I had one of the first R8's in LA and the 2nd white one with the carbon in the west coast..... I don't like to hear excuses either, because I myself am battling companies like Cariter, Harry Winston, DeBeers, Tiffany and Co. everyday and I'm making just as good or better quality jewelry for lesser price and in 3x or faster the turnaround time. this is a fact.
when it comes to certain things, like a GIA certified diamond, it is exactly that, there is no taking away from it. whether I bought it on rodeo drive or bought it in compton. if I got a 2008 Ferrari 599 with papers legit and clean in Compton, it's gonna be the same price or very close then the price it would be in Miami, NYC or anywhere in the USA. with that said. I know quality, I did not want to wait. I wanted a clean mesh looking wheel and I wanted it strong. ummm CHECK AND CHECK.

I've had wheels custom cut for a Range Rover before by Platinum Motorsport because that company would not make a 24" wheel or bigger. the outcome? an amazing ****ing wheel that rode incredible and looked great and was stronger than it's original pattern maker. so with that, this was the 2nd set of custom wheels I had Platinum make for me and it took them 2 days to cut the wheel and 2 days to do the finish on the wheels, so literally in 4 days I was rolling with these mesh looking monoblock style wheels. where as HRE was quoting me over 10x that time.
the outcome? the wheel is amazing, it rides exactly as good as my stocks did and I lowered the car too, so I have not suffered any loss in handling or any ride comfort at all! because there was so much discussion of HRE with the r8, I can see where Sam might have made this mistake and honestly it's not his fault. I bet it was overlooked and never looked at again. I know Platinum is a solid company who has always done solid work. They have sold me a set of HRE wheels for my porsche a while ago and those wheels were in stock, so I copped them and I remember HRE claiming their wheels to be very strong and their reputation was high, so I copped them.

I have had nice wheels on cars since 1996 when I put on BBS LM's on my M3 and then BBS wheels on my e30 M3 that I copped that same year. I've driven on almost every major rim company from brabus to hamman to hartge to lowenhart to even asanti, so I know what a strong forged wheel to a solid one piece wheel is supposed to be and more importantly I know how to drive on wheels and I'VE NEVER CRACKED A SINGLE WHEEL IN MY LIFE. I definitely get my foolishness on and if I can't drive as retarded as I can on my stocks, I don't want the car. I'll make up for the hp loss with motorwork and some suspension work, no matter the cost. I will never ever sacrifice or settle for 2nd best ride quality. HRE had been 1 of the 2 rims I've ever bent more than a few times on my everyday drivers. Asanti was the other. mind you, I was driving 24" asanti's on a 2007 Dodge SRT8 charger that had a 25 series tire on the back and the car weighs close to what a 7 series does, compared to a 996 porsche that weighs nothing on a 30 series tire.

anyways, I'm not here to bash HRE, I'm stating personal experience. I love their designs, I almost put some of their wheels on my bentley gt back in 2004, but I had someone sponsor the car. Money is never an issue for wheels, but when I see a wheel I like and I can get them for free, I'll roll with it. I have done so with vellano and other companies. If I had known about custom cut machined wheels 10 years ago, I may never have copped rims from the major manufacturers for turnaround time reasons and pricing, but the pricing is really slightly significant, just a +++ not a huge margin. Remember, I never ever promoted these wheels as HREs and the r8 has over 10,000 miles on it. I'd say it's the highest mileage R8 in LA easily! it's not like I was wearing HRE badges and center caps and trying to pull the wool over the eyes of transients and car fanatics on the streets and internet. I wasn't wearing a fake louis vuitton or gucci bag and trying to get over. cmon. I hope this clears things up and I'm so sorry for the college length essay.

I just have a few things in life that my reputation has built over the years, one is cars and the other is high end fine jewelry. My family's been involved in jewelry for over 34 years, they just never knew how to market it to the next level. I was that bridge for them. Platinum has been in the motorsport business for over 10 years and their family has been in the auto biz for over 30 years.... George and Jack was their bridge, crutch and the reason! I don't know many lambo to rari to benz and bmw owners that trust other places in the southern cali area outside LA. yes PM has a heavy a list celeb client list, but they also have other legit die hard exotic car owners who take their car there. I've been buying rims from DAZZ motorsport when it was the size of a Mrs. Fields cookies store. when they were at the forefront of the motorsports game in the early 90's to the late 90's from when they turned into one of the biggest names in wheel distribution with Lowenhart and Maya and Racing Hart, etc... I'm not in any means a new jack in this game. I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE GUYS @ PLATINUM MOTORSPORT TO MAKE ME THESE WHEELS. they did. the customer wanted and they delivered. I know patent laws. they did not intentionally try or mean to fake any of their clients or potential clients with these wheels. You can not sue over a design for likeliness of a silhouette of a wheel. (i.e.)It's been tried by Nike to Bathing Ape and they lost everytime.... it's not going down. take it as a compliment and keep it pushing. I could name BBS designed wheels that HRE and thousands of others have taken. HRE sorta flew and took off where BBS left off if that means anything to you guys on here..... it's all good. Bring me a tiffany and co design you want and I'll make you a VVS1 E color instead of a VS1 G color for the same price without the name.

I'm not a hater, I'm brash and I'll keep it 100 with y'all.

again, I do not represent platinum motorsport as anything other than a satisfied customer. just because I say it, doesn't mean they agree 100%, this is on me and myself only.

I emailed Sam and guys at platinum just in case they seen the mistake, so I'm sure they will change it asap. I don't even know if it was on the site. but i'll check. I just wanted to clear up any confusion and bring windex to the glass in this thread.

much love.

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okay, breezing over a very few of these replies...
peep game. 1. I can tell the difference too, hence me seeing a flaw in a diamond thats 2mm in size and small with the naked eye..... 2. I have hit some bad potholes that were freshly made on melrose RIGHT NEXT TO PLATINUM MOTORSPORT and immediately dropped my jaw and turned around to check the wheels, NOTHING, NOT A SLIGHT SMALL BEND AND I WAS ROLLIN ROLLIN, not pushin @ 20mph or something. these are strong wheels.

BTW, these wheels are being painted and refinished with a different look. I wanted to break up the contrast of the all black. there is also a full PPI kit minus the huge rear wing goin on the car right now

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oh yeh, I never ever have witnessed anyone buying wheels from PM and hearing later or finding out that they PM sold them and passed off fakes or replicas as their own. never.

like I said, I never put HRE badges/center caps on my car. You think they'd risk the fact of losing clients like Victoria and David Beckham or some of their Formula 1 clients?

PM has sold many legit sets of HRE wheels, like on rari's and bentleys and ranges and porsches all day. PM has been around for 10 years now. funny this thread is trynna tarnish the platinum finish off their name. not gonna happen homey's. its platinum, not rhodium or plated.
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I guess Ben Baller ain't recession proof since he's getting HRE reps

let's get me to act 21 years of age and bratty on this board....
but first off simmer down homey.... I spent 09 5 series bmw($50,000+) money inside 3 hours of a nightclub on my bday last month, I'm still not worried about it bro. I'm 36. once in a while, I'll pop off and act a jackass

as for my car game in the past 5 years....



a lotta different cars for different reasons.... as a side hustle I helped rent exotic cars to a friend of mine who owned a rent a car business.

some of y'all act like I was putting lexani's on a ferrari 612 scaglietti
or like this was a donk from dade county on 28"s raised up.... smh... cmon

my whip game has always been like surround sound with every angle covered.

p.s. I just saw that PM posted that the wheels on my r8 were monoblock p40's. I apologize for that, because again, I was talking about HRE before sema and before halloween and even in the summertime etc, etc. but I really think Sam made an honest mistake since I was originally goin to put those on there.

and thats a nice black r8, but I had my rims on before halloween. the pics were taken either last month or before xmas though. so I should edit and say 4 months.


don't get these cats confused with places like "BY DESIGN" which were authorized HRE dealers who robbed countless clients and didn't pay their bills to their tire vendors, etc. when the whole eisenmann scam was goin on, Platinum was one of the bigger sellers of these exhausts and never sold a fake. I have to reiterate the fact that when companies won't make the 24" wheel, they will. when I didn't want to wait longer than 2 weeks, they made the wheel. they weren't cheap. quality isn't. and I abhor some of these hypocrites on this forum and those who hate and take shots from behind a cpu screen but dick ride in person..... that racist ass comment about most of their clients don't read message forums, etc.... maybe I'm jumping the gun, but what are you specifically trying to say? that they have a ton of foreigners from the east end of europe that aren't internet savvy? thats like generalizing d2autosport in monterey park and saying they ARE forum and internet savvy because their demographic of clients consist predominantly of asian descent. cmon
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