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Hey I've owned S4's and the 335i so no brand whoring here...
The only tune available now for the S4 (to my limited knowledge) is the MTM tune which is close to 3k. Even with 100+ crank hp added it would still be pressed to put down more than 350 whp, which a $400 tune does to 335, on a car that is also 500lbs lighter than the S4. With the 3k I put into my current car (lsd, tune, dp, intercooler) I pull dead even with my old APR Stage 3 B5, and I dont think anyone here is that high on S4 goodness to claim that the b8 + tune is anywhere near the b5 in stage 3 form. Again, I'm a fan of both cars and will probably have another S4 in my future, but for now the 335i has had too much time in the aftermarket to make this a fair fight when it comes to performance. Cheers
The 335i also spends half it's time in the shop for repairing wastegate rattle and HPFP problems.
I know no one is too high on 335i goodness to say that the HPFP isn't a problem.
Also the S4 would own a 335i on the track, no just a dragstrip where any monkey can stomp his foot on the pedal. Even an old modded mustang could spank the 335i on the dragstrip.
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Also the S4 would own a 335i on the track, no just a dragstrip where any monkey can stomp his foot on the pedal. Even an old modded mustang could spank the 335i on the dragstrip.
Hey I've owned S4's and the 335i so no brand whoring here...
The only tune available now for the S4 (to my limited knowledge) is the MTM tune which is close to 3k. Even with 100+ crank hp added it would still be pressed to put down more than 350 whp, which a $400 tune does to 335, on a car that is also 500lbs lighter than the S4. With the 3k I put into my current car (lsd, tune, dp, intercooler) I pull dead even with my old APR Stage 3 B5, and I dont think anyone here is that high on S4 goodness to claim that the b8 + tune is anywhere near the b5 in stage 3 form. Again, I'm a fan of both cars and will probably have another S4 in my future, but for now the 335i has had too much time in the aftermarket to make this a fair fight when it comes to performance. Cheers
Always nice to see people who know what they are talking about, +1.
The 335i also spends half it's time in the shop for repairing wastegate rattle and HPFP problems.
I know no one is too high on 335i goodness to say that the HPFP isn't a problem.
Also the S4 would own a 335i on the track, no just a dragstrip where any monkey can stomp his foot on the pedal. Even an old modded mustang could spank the 335i on the dragstrip.
335> S4 end of story in every category except maybe snow. And if i was worried about that I'd buy an SUV with actual ground clearance. As for the HPFP, welcome to 2007 that issue has been and passed I've had my 2 335's and my first one went 53k miles and it was tuned for about 49k of those miles and I've never had one problem except my spark plugs because of the tune which isn't even a big issue its a maintenance item.
As for the HPFP my pump never even went out but it was replaced along with the plugs just as a precaution. And the second 335 had mods for 10k miles and that didn't even have issues before I switched it up to the M3, so your point is weak and so are you for throwing it out there as if its even relevant anymore. Wait till the B8 S4 actually achieves something worth talking about like an 11.3 @ 124mph pass then you can praise Audi all you want. And btw the S4/S5 will not out do a 335 on the track because it weighs about as much as a M5 so uh good luck with that idea.
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Uh oh, someone can't back up their claim of 100 hp with a tune only and now they are magazine racing.
I agree that magazine racing is utterly pointless, but he did back up his claim with the MTM link. A few have mentioned the factory is restricting the ecu, but I still have no clue how they got that much power without changing the pulley.
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With the 3k I put into my current car (lsd, tune, dp, intercooler) I pull dead even with my old APR Stage 3 B5
Wow...massively impressive!! No doubt the modded 335's are fast; I fully expect this new engine to have great potential as well. Gotta love forced induction.
Now just put this engine in the S5 so I can buy one!!
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I agree that magazine racing is utterly pointless, but he did back up his claim with the MTM link. A few have mentioned the factory is restricting the ecu, but I still have no clue how they got that much power without changing the pulley.
Wow...massively impressive!! No doubt the modded 335's are fast; I fully expect this new engine to have great potential as well. Gotta love forced induction.
Now just put this engine in the S5 so I can buy one!!
MTM comes up with all kinds of numbers. Where is the dyno? Where are the trap speeds? They can claim it goes back in time for all it matters, they haven't backed it up. Not to mention the car is putting the power down to 4 wheels, the gains will not be the same as the N54.
I CAN back up the numbers N54's are putting down with dyno's and timeslips.
JB3 for the 335i can offer a gain of up to 80whp on the 335i right now, right? And this tune here can supposedly give similar gains, but who the hell cares? I'm pretty sure you can mod either car to kill the other in a straight line if you really want to and have the cash for it, but that's no reason to buy a car alone... not to me anyways.
Look, the 335i is an incredible performer for the money. And I'm sure the S4 is a great performer, too. So what the hell is with this back and forth nonsense? This adds nothing to the thread, aside from a bit humor.
You know, NewSong, as much as you keep accusing people of being "fanboys" you are making yourself out to be one just the same.
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JB3 for the 335i can offer a gain of up to 80whp on the 335i right now, right? And this tune here can supposedly give similar gains, but who the hell cares? I'm pretty sure you can mod either car to kill the other in a straight line if you really want to and have the cash for it, but that's no reason to buy a car alone... not to me anyways.
Look, the 335i is an incredible performer for the money. And I'm sure the S4 is a great performer, too. So what the hell is with this back and forth nonsense? This adds nothing to the thread, aside from a bit humor.
You know, NewSong, as much as you keep accusing people of being "fanboys" you are making yourself out to be one just the same.
The back and forth nonsense came from newsong's statement that the S4 with a tune only "easily" walks modded 335's. Obviously, he looks like foolish now.
I don't see how anyone can make the claim that a MTM modded S4 is walking a JB3 335 when we haven't seen any of these tuned S4s yet. Even then, I don't think anything is 'walking' anything.
I hear GIAC and APR's upcoming tune, does however, allow the car to travel back in time (sans flux capacitor). So take that!!
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