NEW DD - M5 or CTS-V

[Hot Shot]

Originally Posted by AtomicZ At this point I would say it is down to these two cars. Let me know your thoughts or comparisons. I know you're looking at the CTS-V and M5, but ahve you also looked at the new Jaguar XF/XF-R? Everyone is doing comparisons with these 3 cars right now. The new Jag looks pretty nice.

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[gnxs]

Originally Posted by GT3Ranger

What the "F" are you talking about.
You say you prefer a blown caddy over a "hugh" V10. Well bucky displacement is the name of the game. What is the displacement of the caddy? Screw the # of cylinders.

If you don't get it, comparing FI vs. NA is not normally fair.
btw I'm not kidding. When the M5 gets FI (either TT or SC'er) it will CRUSH that POS old man geriatric caddy CTS-V. That's a perfect car for my 85 y/o father.
As I said before, I'd NEVER buy a gov't motors car on shear principle.
Fuk Obama!!!

Ranger

Fair?? LOL

Fortunately the OP hasn't dismissed a very viable choice merely because it's a Cadillac. He's got the right idea, test drive both and judge for himself. I think the Caddy will pleasantly surprise him, even if he ultimately buys something else.

[NewSong]

Is GT3Ranger 12 years old?

That response was unnecessary. I don't know many 85 year olds who could handle 556hp in a car that laps the Nurburgring faster than an M5 ever could.

[gnxs]

Originally Posted by GT3Ranger

Okay all you caddy lovers. Can your chrome laiden, geriatric looking, will fall apart in 2 years caddy do this?

I will even grant you your 650 hp with "$1-2K mods" yeah right.
As Nike says, just do it! Lets see your caddy run a 10.57 sec pass and 130 trap. DO IT!
Stop theoretically talking about it and DO IT. Lets see your 650 plus hp caddy run mid 10's.
To the physicist here talking about what's not possible well this was a 4200 lbs sled running 10's. Many modded 997 TT's are not running mid 10's.
Show me a caddy with all the bolt-ons you want run mid 10's. Short of a built motor come on do it.
We did it here in So. Florida with our M5.

And again to all the comments about purchase price. You can buy a used excellent M5 for $48K. Cheaper than the CTS-V then mod away.
In contrast I would NEVER buy a used GM POS caddy.

So okay I give up. Our slow M5's down here in So. Florida do not stand a chance against GM (gov't or geriatric motors) caddy.

Oh and the M5 has a "big V10" what 5 liters. Whats the caddy's displacement? If the M5 was a 7 or 8 L V10 then I'd say okay you're right it's fair to compare against a SC'er V8 caddy.
Let me give you an example. How would the CTS-V compare against a 7L V8 Z06 or and ACR Viper(8.3L NA motor)? The caddy would be killed.
Oh notice that on the video the M5 ran a Viper and beat it.

Wait until the S85 (V10) motor of the M5/M6 gets FI done. (it's coming baby) We will make it more than fair.

Very sorry but some of you guys just do not get it.
I only want to seek and achieve the truth. You want a caddy well knock yourself out. I'll keep my M5 for years and your caddy will be a $h!t box in 2 to 3 years.

Ranger up

The new CTS-V has only been out about a year, but here's one knocking on the door of the Nitrous equipped, MT DR shod M5 in that vid.. A slightly smaller upper pulley and/or some decent air would likely do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlSllZ9S4e8

[adamls2]

hi there, i am a huge corvette enthusiest and most of the people that ive seen with vettes usually get a cts as a DD.....i highly respect both cars btw no h8ing here....there is no doubt that the cts-v is faster than the M5 as tested though both cars have a diff. feeling to them...both give you that executive feeling ofcourse....the cts-v has more tq making it "more fun" imo in DD mode...but wen it comes to going all out there is no doubt that it will perform.....though its all to ur personal preference in the end...good luck with ur car hunting

[AtomicZ]

Thanks to everyone for the advice and kind words. The search for a new daily driver has come to an unexpected ending.

I made a deal on a 2002 Porsche GT2. I could not pass the deal up so the M5/CTS-V debate will have to be settled at another time.

[GT3Ranger]

Atomic good choice. You've picked a car you can seriously mod if you wish.
Hey "song" guy (or where your name is) you sure sound like an Obama sycophant. Hey buddy I have you pegged.
You better go to your Obama alter get on your knees and pray to your messiah.
Song you need a dose of reality.
hilar ioush ilarious

Airborne Ranger ( do you want to know what I did for this country?????)

[Jmoney]

Don't mind him bro he doesn't even have a car....

Originally Posted by GT3Ranger

Atomic good choice. You've picked a car you can seriously mod if you wish.
Hey "song" guy (or where your name is) you sure sound like an Obama sycophant. Hey buddy I have you pegged.
You better go to your Obama alter get on your knees and pray to your messiah.
Song you need a dose of reality.
hilar ioush ilarious

Airborne Ranger ( do you want to know what I did for this country?????)

[AtomicZ]

Originally Posted by GT3Ranger

Atomic good choice. You've picked a car you can seriously mod if you wish.
Hey "song" guy (or where your name is) you sure sound like an Obama sycophant. Hey buddy I have you pegged.
You better go to your Obama alter get on your knees and pray to your messiah.
Song you need a dose of reality.
hilar ioush ilarious

Airborne Ranger ( do you want to know what I did for this country?????)

It's already had a few mods done by the 6speed member who used to own it.

1. Factory Tuned DME by Protomotive
2. (2) GT30-76 Turbochargers
3. (2) Tial 44mm Wastegates
4. Protomotive Modified Exhaust Manifolds
5. Protomotive Upgraded Intercoolers and piping
6. Upgraded Throttle body and IPD Plenum
7. Protomotive Fuel System with 60lb Injectors and Upgraded fuel pump
8. AEM Tru Boost Gauge / AEM Wideband Controller and Gauge
9. ATS Triple Carbon Clutch / I.Mec Short Shift Kit
10. Custom Switzer Exhaust with Straight through design
11. Euro spec GT3 Seats in Black Leather with Crests
12. Carbon Fiber GT2 Wing Blade
13. Carbon Fiber GT2 Grille
14. Carbon Fiber Mirror Housings
15. Carbon Fiber Ebrake and Shifter
16. Porsche Carbon Ceramic Brakes
17. 18” HRE C21 Competition Wheels w/ Black Centers
18. BF Goodrich Drag Radials in Rear/ Michelin PS2 in Front

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by GT3Ranger

Okay all you caddy lovers. Can your chrome laiden, geriatric looking, will fall apart in 2 years caddy do this?

I will even grant you your 650 hp with "$1-2K mods" yeah right.
As Nike says, just do it! Lets see your caddy run a 10.57 sec pass and 130 trap. DO IT!
Stop theoretically talking about it and DO IT. Lets see your 650 plus hp caddy run mid 10's.
To the physicist here talking about what's not possible well this was a 4200 lbs sled running 10's. Many modded 997 TT's are not running mid 10's.
Show me a caddy with all the bolt-ons you want run mid 10's. Short of a built motor come on do it.
We did it here in So. Florida with our M5.

And again to all the comments about purchase price. You can buy a used excellent M5 for $48K. Cheaper than the CTS-V then mod away.
In contrast I would NEVER buy a used GM POS caddy.

So okay I give up. Our slow M5's down here in So. Florida do not stand a chance against GM (gov't or geriatric motors) caddy.

Oh and the M5 has a "big V10" what 5 liters. Whats the caddy's displacement? If the M5 was a 7 or 8 L V10 then I'd say okay you're right it's fair to compare against a SC'er V8 caddy.
Let me give you an example. How would the CTS-V compare against a 7L V8 Z06 or and ACR Viper(8.3L NA motor)? The caddy would be killed.
Oh notice that on the video the M5 ran a Viper and beat it.

Wait until the S85 (V10) motor of the M5/M6 gets FI done. (it's coming baby) We will make it more than fair.

Very sorry but some of you guys just do not get it.
I only want to seek and achieve the truth. You want a caddy well knock yourself out. I'll keep my M5 for years and your caddy will be a $h!t box in 2 to 3 years.

Ranger up

Ranger,

Do you know what rim and tire setup that M5 has? Awesome vid BTW!