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honestly i may feel embarrassed if i do say i own a low end boxster. i feel that its inferior to the 911 because most people perceive owning a boxster bc one cant afford a 911. i just dont know how reliable the boxster can be without any warranty and i dont want to spend 71k on a new boxster.
Perhaps following my example and calling it a Cayman Cabriolet is the answer. Buy what you like to drive.
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which drives better. i know ur boxster has more power but....
Boxster; hands down. S2K has / weight distribution with most all of the weight centered between the wheels. With front engine it puts driver toward the rear wheels which puts the rotation point about where your knees are. This is such an importnat point that most miss in regards to feed back to the driver.
Boxster has about 48/52 with center of rotation about at your hip. This gives feedback to the driver which is very friedly and easy to work with. Roll center is also lower on the Boxster due to the flat 6 mounted low in the chassey. Steering feed back is better than any other Porsches I have dirven and better than any other cars I have driven.
Harmany between engine, transmision, breaks and steering is also very natural with no one issue better than the other. All are great.
S2K has very good performance and easy to drive fast, however not near the pleasure than in the Boxster.
S2K needs to be driven harder to get decent performance out of it, where Boxster, due to torque, gives more perfromance when driven easy.
Would I have an S2K? Yes. Would I have a Boxster at almost 3 times the price of the S2k? I do.
Low end? Ouch! You can get 911's at reasonable prices right now as well. I personally know several Boxster owners that chose their Boxster based upon the way it handles and drives. Not just because it was less expensive and that's all that they could afford. A few of them have a Boxster along with a much more expensive exotic. They appreciate the Boxster for the mid-engine handling, the fun they have on the track with it, and what a great DD it makes.
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I had a DB9 and went in to buy a 911 Turbo. After seeing the RS 60 and taking a closer look, I decided to drive the Boxster.
I came away with a total different respect and realized that this would be Porsche's top model if it wasn't so hard to change the marketing.
I have two friends who both have 911 s cabs. When I told them I bought a Boxster they were surprised and asked me what I thought. I suggested that they forget what anyone had said and to just drive my car with an opened mind. Neither one could believe it and the one with the 997S is considering a change.
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^^That's cool! I also have a friend with a 997TT that went to Laguna Seca and drove a regular Boxster (not the S). Now, since that day, every time he sees my Boxster he says "Man, I love that car. Boxster's are now one of my favorite's".
I think once someone drives one, they develope a whole new respect for them. =)
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To the OP - I'm an AP1 owner and a C2S owner and have had some seat time in Cayman S/Boxster S and non S models.
I was originally going to sell the S2K after buying the C2S but unless I swap it for a Lotus - I'm keeping the S2000. It's waaaaay too much fun.
All great cars - but it kind of depends on what you want. The S2000 has more of a go kart feel and the 9,000RPM redline of the AP1 is fantastic.
The Box would be a better daily - it's more comfy and torquey. On track/auto-x they are very close - it's really down to the driver vs. driver rather than the cars themselves.
IMO the Boxster is a bit more forgiving at the limit.
You just have to drive both and see what you like better. The Honda is a Honda. It is going to be very inexpensive to run/fix/maintain etc.
The Porsche - I can't even see the engine. Better to have a newer CPO car if you're going the P-car route.
Sloopy - you are incorrect about the S2000 weight distribution - the Honda is a F/M car with 50/50 or 49/51 (depending on the source) weight distribution. The engine is not between the wheels - it is set back towards the firewall.
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^^Hey Jeff! LTNS! Hope you're doing well too! Your pcar is still Todd's favorite! Everytime he sees it, he gets the drools! LOL!
Your perspective about the two cars is great! Nice job on the write up! You're the man to listen to! You've had seat time them all and you autocross! I value your opinions based upon your knowledge and personal experience and I hope these guys do too!
Best wishes and hope to see you soon, buddy!
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Sloopy - you are incorrect about the S2000 weight distribution - the Honda is a F/M car with 50/50 or 49/51 (depending on the source) weight distribution. The engine is not between the wheels - it is set back towards the firewall.
Misunderstood my statement. Most of the cars weight is between front and rear wheels rather than being forward or rearward of axles. (Engine behind the front wheels.) Weight is considered 50/50 over the wheels front to back. While some cars come close to this balance, their weight is outside of axles which results in slower transitions. Honda is brilliant here, just not as good as the Boxster IMHO. Car rotation point is about where your knees are. This is the trick of the Boxster feel. Rotation point is at your hip.
One way to figure this out is go to halfway point between front and rear wheels and put a piece of tape. Now open the door and see where this is in realtion to the seat. On Boxster do the same after figuring 48% of the wheel base then put tape this distance behind the front wheels. Open the door and you should see what I mean.
owning 3 s2000's , if money was not an issue, the Pcar would be my choice only if it's the "S" version Boxster. The refinements, quality, and feel is epic.. the s2000 itself is a true enthusiast car that has the bare necessities.
drove both cars if we are talking about power porsche feels faster in the sec you step the pedal honda not that fest and the power band sucks you have to wait 10000000000000RPM to feel the push, when it comes to maiintnance porsche is more expensive and harder to work on, honda is alot chiper and you can work on it yourself, my opinion i would go for the porsche not because it has a biger name but because i would enjoy it better.
I also own an s2000 and simply love it.The transmission is 1 of the best hands down.The only real flaw is lack of real TQ at normal RPMs.With as much money as you can save versus buying a Boxster,you can easily hit 400+WHP with a bolt on turbo kit.Maintenance is nothing on these cars as with most hondas,except the NSX.lol.I have one of those also and at your price range you could get yourself into a 91-94 model which you might wanna look into.If your wanting the open air feeling then look for a 95 when they started making targa models.
Comparing a Honda to a Porsche is like comparing Sarah Palin to Sophia Loren.
hahhaha. that's messed up. as a previous s2000 owner please do me a favor and upgrade me from Sarah Palin to at least some1 respectable.
how about Megan fox vs. Sophia loren. Both are hot, but one is much classier.
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