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2 Challenge Stradale's Beat by a 2000 360 Modena...

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I don't think US Stradales are 2800 lbs. (In fact it's much closer to the 3100 lbs you posted for the regular 360)
The dyno on the regular 360 sounds about right for a stock one. There are a few other variables like who is driving/shifting the cars. An extremenly good driver in a 360 could beat a bad driver in a CS etc. Having driven both on the track, (where the CS is much better than the regular 360) I would say that the only way that it beat the CS's is because the people in the CS's were either no pushing them 100% or did not know what they were doing.
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I agree, but it's not night & day like say a stock k16 996tt and a 997TT would be. Also, while the Stadale has the race button which makes the F1 shift faster, who knows if they were driving the cars 100% all the way to redline etc?
What color is the 00 360 in the vid?
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1. Is this Stock Vs. Stock?

2. 333 RWHP is a strong motor. I have seen 360's dyno as low at 305 RWHP.

3. CS's that came to USA actually weigh more than 3000 lbs. I have asked many CS owners to weigh it without any success. I would guess between 3050 - 3100 lbs.
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interesting, what kind of dyno was used on the 360?
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Wishful thinking but the truth is CS will never loose to a stock 360 in straight line or twisties. Unless there's driver skills deficit. Think about it, quicker F1 tranny, better aerodynamics, lighter weight, higher power band throughout the 8000rpm and better suspension.
This argument is very similar to that of the 996TT against 996GT2
My CS in race mode can keep up with F430 up to 160mph. No way the stock 360 will have a chance unless it has a Novitec SC.

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So you would rather analyze these cars base on this particular video as opposed to real life owner's experiences?
What would be even more "plain and simple" is to line your own car up against another CS in your area and see what happen.
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Easier said then done... a CS is not as common as a camary, and is 360 itself isn't an accord by any means as well
OK then ... you can go to bed believing a stock 2000 360 F1 will out run Challenge Stradales and no one will question you again.

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The weights Ferrari gave for the Stradales were w/o any fluids-oil, water, fuel, brake, etc!

So the car's weight will vary considerably.

How a 360 took two Stradales is a mystery. It could also be that the 360 had some mods that are not mentioned or known.
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The 2000 360 could have been a Euro model which would be lighter and quicker than a US model 360.

I don't think US Stradales are much faster in a straight line than a standard 360 and of course, power varies from car to car.

When I got my CS, my 360 felt like the faster car. Now that I've had more seat time, the CS feels like the faster car.

I'm going to race them against each other and film it this weekend. My 360 is a US model 02 with sport seats (same light seats as Strad), high flow cats, Capristo level 3, BMC filters, with Stradale wheels. My CS is 100% stock. It should be close...
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