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Originally Posted by 996toomey
This whole subject of belts & bars is very confusing. Many opinions and options for bars and harnesses.
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Maybe this will help. Docdan has a 997GT3 with a roll cage, he does not need a harness bar because he can attach the shoulder belts directly to the bar. I am assuming he bought the 996GT3 seats and has or will need the sub mount bar that attaches to the bottom of the seat. This keeps the anti sub belts in the same position relative to the seat, they move with the seat. The seat has an opening between the cushions for the belts. Some may prefer to mount them directly to the tub for more security. I would guess these drivers would mount the belts for their personal seat location, possibly even having a completly fixed seat. The GT3 belts will have specific clips for the lap portion that bolt onto thingys already on the seat. The 996GT3 seat does not have any provision for OEM shoulder belts so you are on your own about that. You could attach them to the tunnel or get longer stalks and get them attached to the seat somehow. There may even be a way to get the wiring hooked up to the seatbelt latched sensor, but at that point you will also need to have the dealer turn off the side airbag light. You could also put some black tape over the light, not reccomended though. Front bags should still work, but don't hold me to that one.
My cars are set up for autocross specifically so I do not want the extra weight of a roll cage. I used a Brey Krouse (sp) harness bar in the C2S that is made for cars with Bose sound. I am also going to use the same bar in the RS because it is a lot less $ than the BK truss system. The painfull part for me is the GT2 seats at close to 7K for the pair. Good part is that they should be plug and play for the harnesses and side air bags, along with being OEM setup for the shoulder belts.
You can also get OEM harness bars for the 996 cars. Other good thing about the GT2 seats is that they fold forward for access to the rear. Not that you can put much back there with a cage or harness bar, but it will make it a lot easier to clean the inside of the rear window.
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GT2 and GT3 seats just bolt right in to the factory holes. The sub bar that bolts to the seat bottom has holes that "should" line up with existing bolts on the seat. The bolts are long enough to go through the added thickness. I had a problem getting one of the sub bars on and had to spread the seat a bit. That was not to hard to do. Problem was that is was a freekin biatch to get the seat bolted into the car because the holes were difficult to line up. I got the seat in, but I will need to remove the seat next month and file the holes oblong a bit because the seat is almost impossible to slide. Good thing it is the passengers seat.
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