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I'm going to have to disagree with two posts above, one being of pure fact and the other just an opinion. While some may believe pepper spray is just as effective as a taser, consider this. While someone is enraged, aiming towards the eyes isn't too easy. Also, you may be grabbed from behind. A taser can be used on any part of the body at any time, where as pepper spray is highly unrealistic. When and if you get attacked, pepper spray does not stop the target from grabbing you or tackling you, where as a taser immobilizes your target.
Krav Maga....I have to say I'm not a fan. Simply because I've seen it, and fought many people trained in it, it's just not realistic. These martial arts highly rely on "situations" where as Jiu-Jitsu, and Muay Thai, offer a more violent and broader sense to fighting. Let's just say 80% of street fights will end up on the ground, and I've taken Krav Maga people to the ground, it's not pretty.
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I am suprised at all the mentions of guns and weapons for home security.
I come from Australia, now in Aus we have strict gun laws, they pretty much prevent you from really owning anything, and if you do legally own something, such as a simple .22 rifle it is ment to be locked in a gun safe at all times. You can't really own handguns and tasers are pretty much illegal as well. So i get suprissed when you guys say that is what is necessary. Is it that much worse living in the US that all these things are needed, or is it a simply a way of thinking that if someone does break in, pick up the biggest weapon and blow the crap out of them.
Another question, to all the people who own guns and tasers, how many have actually used them in your home? Either shot at an intruder or at least pulled a weapon on them?
I am suprised at all the mentions of guns and weapons for home security.
I come from Australia, now in Aus we have strict gun laws, they pretty much prevent you from really owning anything, and if you do legally own something, such as a simple .22 rifle it is ment to be locked in a gun safe at all times. You can't really own handguns and tasers are pretty much illegal as well. So i get suprissed when you guys say that is what is necessary. Is it that much worse living in the US that all these things are needed, or is it a simply a way of thinking that if someone does break in, pick up the biggest weapon and blow the crap out of them.
Another question, to all the people who own guns and tasers, how many have actually used them in your home? Either shot at an intruder or at least pulled a weapon on them?
I'd wager that crime rates in most of the US are MUCH worse than in Australia. As for gun ownership, if it weren't illegal in Aus, obviously more people would buy guns. Bad guys are going to have guns whether they're legal or not, so more lawful ownership wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. I don't anticipate ever having to use a gun for anything other than recreational shooting, but I'd rather have a gun hidden away if needed than to regret not having one.
To the OP: If you do get a gun, keep it locked up. Biometric and digital-lock safes keep them protected and out of unsafe hands, but at the ready in a few seconds.
True, valid points, i guess im also thinking that, well just say a kid or somthing breaks into your house, because he is young and stupid or for what ever reason and attempts to rob you, thinking no one is home or whatever.
You jump out of bed and grab your gun, and maybe there is a scuffle or maybe he startles you or somthing and you end up shooting the kid and killing him or doing serious damage. Is that really somthing you want to happen, is breaking and entering really worth getting killed for. Maybe if you had a bat instead of a gun then the kid would only be injured, broken leg or similar, rather than dead. Also if someone really wanted to break in and do harm or kill you, they would probably shoot at you before you shot back.
I am not trying to say i condone breaking and entering or home invasion, and i know that if someone breaks in you are going to want to protect yourself and your family, but there is a much higher chance of someone getting shot when all they wanted to do was steal something small to get money and not hurt anyone.
Many people steal and do break ins for many reasons, a lot are because they are young and stupid or want/need easy fast money, and its a pretty small thing to be shot over.
Anyways thats my 2c. Maybe living in Aus i have a different perspective on life.
True, valid points, i guess im also thinking that, well just say a kid or somthing breaks into your house, because he is young and stupid or for what ever reason and attempts to rob you, thinking no one is home or whatever.
You jump out of bed and grab your gun, and maybe there is a scuffle or maybe he startles you or somthing and you end up shooting the kid and killing him or doing serious damage. Is that really somthing you want to happen, is breaking and entering really worth getting killed for. Maybe if you had a bat instead of a gun then the kid would only be injured, broken leg or similar, rather than dead. Also if someone really wanted to break in and do harm or kill you, they would probably shoot at you before you shot back.
I am not trying to say i condone breaking and entering or home invasion, and i know that if someone breaks in you are going to want to protect yourself and your family, but there is a much higher chance of someone getting shot when all they wanted to do was steal something small to get money and not hurt anyone.
Many people steal and do break ins for many reasons, a lot are because they are young and stupid or want/need easy fast money, and its a pretty small thing to be shot over.
Anyways thats my 2c. Maybe living in Aus i have a different perspective on life.
That's their own fault for taking that chance. I don't feel sorry for criminals, not one bit.
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The best home security available is a trained German Shepherd or Belgian Malinois. Hard to go wrong with either, and both are amazing with children.
If you must buy a weapon, which I discourage unless you live in a bad neighborhood, buy a shotgun (Remington 870 would be perfect). The racking of the action is a huge deterrrent to an entering intruder. If they happen to have the balls to still be in the house after that, it won't penetrate the walls when you are using it, should they be standing adjacent to one of your children's bedrooms. Just don't use slugs.
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Unless he has a police officer that never sleeps for a neighbor, what are your suggestions? Judging from your statement and sarcasm, you seem like quite the expert.... Either that, or I mistook your post.
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I strongly disagree with the suggestion to use a paintball gun! If you pull a gun on a robber or someone breaking in, you better have some real firepower to blast them in their legs or kill them depending on the perceived threat; they might be packing as well!
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As an "Electronic Systems Contractor," we setup integrated alarms, cameras, lighting controls, etc. The level of protection using electronics depends on level of safety concern and budget.
Deterrents are always the best! Signs indicating alarms, monitoring services and video cameras will keep most random criminals moving on the the next house without such security features. However, I suggest you actually have those systems in place, not just signs and stickers. (although signs, stickers are better than nothing).
On the other hand, it is much harder to defend against at direct attack focused on an individual house. So, if you feel high risk, (CEO, movie star, lots of art, jewelry, etc) then a custom and totally integrated system is recommended.
Security Camera systems (an alarms) can be setup with an outdoor speakers that announces something like, "Warning you are being watched by multiple cameras."
They can be programed only to operate and certain times of the day, etc.
Once again, deterrents are always the best.
Lighting control integration can be very effective. "Vacation modes" can "replay" the past couple weeks of actual light usage at the house. That is much better than a lamp timer that goes on/off at the same time every day. Once integrated with the alarm system, during an alarm triggered event, the lights can be programmed to be all at 100%, while none of the wall switches will function; other areas can be flashing (out doors, so cops know immediately which house to visit. Lastly, some areas can be darkened, so the family could hide together - hunkered down with a shotgun. Thus, the criminal would be moving from a bright hallway into a dark room, by the time his eyes adjust, the problem would have been solved.