What next..GTR, R8, Gallardo
#16
I was on your situation a couple of months ago and ended up getting a GT-R.
For just look, I love way R8 looks but I will not pick up V8 R8.
If I get an R8 it will be either FI V8 or V10 model.
I used to have a 997.1TT with just ECU tune and exhaust and it's way faster than V8 R8.
Actually it is probably faster than V10 R8.
For Lambo, if I pick up one it will be LP-560 (unless you find a 6spd Gallardo for earlier models).
GT-R is a great car but then again I want to get another 997TT.
Have any thought on 997TT?
For just look, I love way R8 looks but I will not pick up V8 R8.
If I get an R8 it will be either FI V8 or V10 model.
I used to have a 997.1TT with just ECU tune and exhaust and it's way faster than V8 R8.
Actually it is probably faster than V10 R8.
For Lambo, if I pick up one it will be LP-560 (unless you find a 6spd Gallardo for earlier models).
GT-R is a great car but then again I want to get another 997TT.
Have any thought on 997TT?
Forget the Gallardo.
Slow, old, beat up, interior will be complete shiat.
Transmission will suck no matter which type you get.
R8 or GTR and that depends on how fast you want to go and what you want people to think of you as you drive.
R8 go fast mods are sparce, its an NA engine - so whatever.
R8 will have a better "look" to it to your neighbors.
GTR is fastest of all 3 stock, mods are easy and cheap for even faster.
GTR is just 1 step below the R8 in terms of looking rich/fancy.
Personally, I would get the GTR cause I need to go faster even though I still value my neighbors and girls drooling.
Slow, old, beat up, interior will be complete shiat.
Transmission will suck no matter which type you get.
R8 or GTR and that depends on how fast you want to go and what you want people to think of you as you drive.
R8 go fast mods are sparce, its an NA engine - so whatever.
R8 will have a better "look" to it to your neighbors.
GTR is fastest of all 3 stock, mods are easy and cheap for even faster.
GTR is just 1 step below the R8 in terms of looking rich/fancy.
Personally, I would get the GTR cause I need to go faster even though I still value my neighbors and girls drooling.
#17
To each their own. But, a car that is capable of matching, and often beating, its competition (priced twice as much, at times) sounds like a bargain to me. I guess I just have a different mindset, as I'm just a enthusiast that holds no biases based on origin of a vehicle. If it can hold its own against its competitors, then it's ok by me.
I've owned two STI's which aren't very sexy cars compared to an M5, E63 AMG or such because the STI's performance is just that great and the price is less than half of the other two (just like the GTR versus a 911, Gallardo, or R8). But the OP is looking for a weekend/fun car versus a daily driver, so sexiness to me weighs in more.
Personally I'm a Porsche guy so I'd get a 997 Turbo over any of the cars on your list, but I'm a single sportscar household, use my car as a daily driver, and have two little kids I couldn't fit in a Gallardo or R8, so it would only be a GTR or 911 on my list. The 911 is the obvious winner for me in that case just as it was 5 years ago when I bought my Turbo after considering a GTR too.
#18
The question is, what do you want out of the car? What are your hopes and expectations?
So the Gallardo is out, thats fine.
I've lapped the '13 GT-R Black Series, the R8 V8 & V10 at MRLS, both were 6-speed manuals. I've driven a GT-R and R8 V8 on the street and reviewed both.
I was able to get more acclimated much more quickly in the R8, it is more of a "driver's car", neutral, forgiving, easy to go fast immediately. It is more exotic, much lower seating position, superior interior and better soundtrack.
That said, the GT-R is amazing, capable and puts up outstanding numbers. Still has a big feel and "big car" outward visibility.
Its really what you want out of the car and what you're looking for.
So the Gallardo is out, thats fine.
I've lapped the '13 GT-R Black Series, the R8 V8 & V10 at MRLS, both were 6-speed manuals. I've driven a GT-R and R8 V8 on the street and reviewed both.
I was able to get more acclimated much more quickly in the R8, it is more of a "driver's car", neutral, forgiving, easy to go fast immediately. It is more exotic, much lower seating position, superior interior and better soundtrack.
That said, the GT-R is amazing, capable and puts up outstanding numbers. Still has a big feel and "big car" outward visibility.
Its really what you want out of the car and what you're looking for.
#19
The question is, what do you want out of the car? What are your hopes and expectations?
So the Gallardo is out, thats fine.
I've lapped the '13 GT-R Black Series, the R8 V8 & V10 at MRLS, both were 6-speed manuals. I've driven a GT-R and R8 V8 on the street and reviewed both.
I was able to get more acclimated much more quickly in the R8, it is more of a "driver's car", neutral, forgiving, easy to go fast immediately. It is more exotic, much lower seating position, superior interior and better soundtrack.
That said, the GT-R is amazing, capable and puts up outstanding numbers. Still has a big feel and "big car" outward visibility.
Its really what you want out of the car and what you're looking for.
So the Gallardo is out, thats fine.
I've lapped the '13 GT-R Black Series, the R8 V8 & V10 at MRLS, both were 6-speed manuals. I've driven a GT-R and R8 V8 on the street and reviewed both.
I was able to get more acclimated much more quickly in the R8, it is more of a "driver's car", neutral, forgiving, easy to go fast immediately. It is more exotic, much lower seating position, superior interior and better soundtrack.
That said, the GT-R is amazing, capable and puts up outstanding numbers. Still has a big feel and "big car" outward visibility.
Its really what you want out of the car and what you're looking for.
The difference is the priorities I place on each feature, for example - the ability to actually see while driving. The GT-R is normal, maybe a fraction lower than a Chrysler 300, being able to see over the Miata in front of you. The R8 was more fun to drive, though, but I couldn't see as well in traffic.
Like Deuce mentioned - what are your intended uses (DD, occasional spirited drive, auto-x, or the ultimate - road courses),what are your priorities (interior, comfort, performance, exterior, etc...)?
The R8 and GT-R, while similar on paper (decent power, AWD), are vastly different when driven.
#20
ok, i didnt see a requested price range. But that makes it a little bit harder. The GT-R is obviously alot faster compared to a R8 V8. Feels more like a "racecar". But the R8 V8 is a better dailydriver and looks much better (in my opinion), better interior etc. And you can get a good 6speed gearbox if thats what you want. It all depends on what you want with the car. This is my expereince of the two cars
#21
ok, i didnt see a requested price range. But that makes it a little bit harder. The GT-R is obviously alot faster compared to a R8 V8. Feels more like a "racecar". But the R8 V8 is a better dailydriver and looks much better (in my opinion), better interior etc. And you can get a good 6speed gearbox if thats what you want. It all depends on what you want with the car. This is my expereince of the two cars
If you prefer gated shifter - the GT-R never had one.
#22
Im impartial now to whether or not the car is a true 6speed or not. However I will say Ive always wanted a gated shifter. My true intentions with my weekend cars is simply just to put a smile on my face and to make me appreciate that hard work can pay off. I want it to look good, sound good and feel good all around. I think with all those factors considered the R8, imo, might edge out the larger,less exotic looking Gtr. Not saying the Gtr isnt a beautiful car but the Audi interior along with the sleek, wide look of the R8 I dont think is compareable.
I wont be tracking the at all, there is no tracks near me besides a 1/4mile but that doesnt really entice me anymore.
Me and my dad built up a 67 chevelle with a 468ci (~650hp/tq) So if im really fiending for a blast of solid power I can always take that for a spin. This would be ofcourse if the v8 R8 doesnt provide me with the power fix.
I wont be tracking the at all, there is no tracks near me besides a 1/4mile but that doesnt really entice me anymore.
Me and my dad built up a 67 chevelle with a 468ci (~650hp/tq) So if im really fiending for a blast of solid power I can always take that for a spin. This would be ofcourse if the v8 R8 doesnt provide me with the power fix.
Last edited by GETU1; 04-04-2014 at 06:58 PM.
#23
To each their own. But, a car that is capable of matching, and often beating, its competition (priced twice as much, at times) sounds like a bargain to me. I guess I just have a different mindset, as I'm just a enthusiast that holds no biases based on origin of a vehicle. If it can hold its own against its competitors, then it's ok by me.
#24
I went 911 C2S to 997 TT to 997 TTS to R8 V10 Spyder.
The Porsches are awe inspiring cars and performance. OTOH, every time I drive the R8 spyder, it's freaking theater. I love the performance of my previous Porsches. I love the performance and drama of my R8. My 2 cents...
The Porsches are awe inspiring cars and performance. OTOH, every time I drive the R8 spyder, it's freaking theater. I love the performance of my previous Porsches. I love the performance and drama of my R8. My 2 cents...
#25
I went 911 C2S to 997 TT to 997 TTS to R8 V10 Spyder.
The Porsches are awe inspiring cars and performance. OTOH, every time I drive the R8 spyder, it's freaking theater. I love the performance of my previous Porsches. I love the performance and drama of my R8. My 2 cents...
The Porsches are awe inspiring cars and performance. OTOH, every time I drive the R8 spyder, it's freaking theater. I love the performance of my previous Porsches. I love the performance and drama of my R8. My 2 cents...
#26
I've heard that bias about the GT-R over the years more times than I can remember. Yeah, I guess it is, "just a Nissan", but one that was (and still is) a real game changer. I guess for some people the pedigree, cachet, and badge are more important criteria than overall performance. But I will tell you that as a former GT-R owner, I had people all over the vehicle EVERY single time I drove it. Yeah, a lot of them were fan boys, but I also had, for example, middle aged women without any interest in cars come up and tell me how much they liked the look of my GT-R. Of course, something like a Lambo is going to get oohs and ahhs from a lot of people. It's an exotic car. But I wouldn't discount the looks of the GT-R and relegate it to the middle of the pack by Nissan name alone.
I'm first and foremost about the performance, but if I can afford a car that has both the performance and flashy looks, that's what I'm going to get every time. Honestly for me, my biggest knock against the GTR is how disconnected you feel versus its competitors. I don't want a car that's easy to get in and drive fast. One of the reasons I love the 911 is the rear engine and how that makes it drive differently than any other car on the road, and the challenges and different driving dynamics it brings to the table.
I would think for the OP, since this is a weekend car that won't see a ton of use, these things are going to be important. A car that you only drive occasionally should really excite all of your senses IMHO so it really feels like a special occasion every time you drive it!
#27
It's really not a game changer as there have been previous examples of everyday marques who put out an outstanding car rivalling cars for twice the price such as the Dodge Stealth/Mitsubishi 3000GT, Subaru STI, Mitsubishi EVO, Dodge Viper, Ford GT, and too many more to list. It's not even a game changer for Nissan since they put out the Datsun ZX cars 40 years ago. The GTR is basically the same as those in that it's a cheaper car than its competition that can keep up with or beat cars twice its price or more. Don't get me wrong, I think it's an awesome car, but it's just not for me. The looks are definitely very flashy for an everyday marque, but an R8, Lambo, Ferrari, 911 Turbo, Aston Martin and any of the similar competitors in terms of performance are all better looking and "flashier" cars that will always attract more attention.
I'm first and foremost about the performance, but if I can afford a car that has both the performance and flashy looks, that's what I'm going to get every time. Honestly for me, my biggest knock against the GTR is how disconnected you feel versus its competitors. I don't want a car that's easy to get in and drive fast. One of the reasons I love the 911 is the rear engine and how that makes it drive differently than any other car on the road, and the challenges and different driving dynamics it brings to the table.
I would think for the OP, since this is a weekend car that won't see a ton of use, these things are going to be important. A car that you only drive occasionally should really excite all of your senses IMHO so it really feels like a special occasion every time you drive it!
I'm first and foremost about the performance, but if I can afford a car that has both the performance and flashy looks, that's what I'm going to get every time. Honestly for me, my biggest knock against the GTR is how disconnected you feel versus its competitors. I don't want a car that's easy to get in and drive fast. One of the reasons I love the 911 is the rear engine and how that makes it drive differently than any other car on the road, and the challenges and different driving dynamics it brings to the table.
I would think for the OP, since this is a weekend car that won't see a ton of use, these things are going to be important. A car that you only drive occasionally should really excite all of your senses IMHO so it really feels like a special occasion every time you drive it!
#28
The Audi is way lower due to AudiCare which pays for maintenance through 45k. OTOH, fuel costs are significantly higher with the V10 than the turbocharged flat 6.
#29
Good point, although I'd be more worried about parts and service for the Germans.
#30
OP: Have you considered a new F-Type?
Disclaimer: I like the car, I think its a great choice for specific reasons. But I find this statement a little surprising. It's styling isn't classic or particularly artistic and it looks "big". If you had an Aston, Ferrari, 997/991, F-Type or Maserati, I could totally see it. My 45yr old Sicilian wife would concur.
Disclaimer: I like the car, I think its a great choice for specific reasons. But I find this statement a little surprising. It's styling isn't classic or particularly artistic and it looks "big". If you had an Aston, Ferrari, 997/991, F-Type or Maserati, I could totally see it. My 45yr old Sicilian wife would concur.