KA - In Memory of Captain Michael J. Maring

[cjv]

Todd,

For over two years I had posted on Rennlist everything I did to my car. About two weeks ago I removed this information. Most of the information I will still provide to anyone for the asking. Some of the latest items I have not recently released due to our up coming little contest. I can tell you the 614 rwhp numbers were posted for sometime. We arrived at those numbers almost six months ago. The recent numbers have not been posted and might not be until our cars meet at the dyno, track and strip in the next couple of months. I understand, rumor has it, your Stage V dyno run developed 595 or 598 rwhp. Congraduations.

Regarding the CO2, it is a lot more involved than cooling the outside of the intercoolers. Part of the system has nothing to do with the intercoolers at all. It took us awhile to figure this out , the first tests with the CO2, lost about fifty hp. I can tell you the difference between 614 rwhp and 614+ rwhp with the CO2 is four+ tenths of a second in the quarter mile. I would hardly call this insignificant. With the N20 I expect to see another second disappear. I will know this very soon.

Actually, I really would not mind sharing with you. You do have one thing I would like in return. In your Stage V you advertise larger injectors. I would trade you selling me these larger injectors at your cost for my information on the CO2 design.

[Todd @ EVO]

Originally posted by cjv
Todd,

I can tell you the 614 rwhp numbers were posted for sometime. We arrived at those numbers almost six months ago. The recent numbers have not been posted and might not be until our cars meet at the dyno, track and strip in the next couple of months. I understand, rumor has it, your Stage V dyno run developed 595 or 598 rwhp. Congraduations.

Regarding the CO2, it is a lot more involved than cooling the outside of the intercoolers. Part of the system has nothing to do with the intercoolers at all. It took us awhile to figure this out , the first tests with the CO2, lost about fifty hp. I can tell you the difference between 614 rwhp and 614+ rwhp with the CO2 is four+ tenths of a second in the quarter mile. I would hardly call this insignificant. With the N20 I expect to see another second disappear. I will know this very soon.

Chad,

Thank you. I unfortunately have never seen the graph for the 614 dyno. I remember the #'s that were posted but never a graph. I do not doubt you but just curious what the graph looked like.

I have experimented with CO2 and NOS to cool the outside of the IC's only and found there was only a few HP. I am glad to hear your method is working much better. I am not sure I want to go down the road of an elaborate CO2 / NOS system because unlike you, I am building products for a wider audience. I am sure it works well, however most of the guys that we sell upgrades for would not go for it.

Any latest 1/4 mile times?


Take care

[cjv]

I never posted the graph. Just the RWHP, RWT and the AFR numbers at 100 rpm increaments. It would be pretty easy to make a graph from this information. This is more accurate information than you can obtain from any graph.

As for quarter mile times, we will have to keep it as a surprise until our car's meet.

[Todd @ EVO]

Originally posted by cjv
I never posted the graph. Just the RWHP, RWT and the AFR numbers at 100 rpm increaments. It would be pretty easy to make a graph from this information. This is more accurate information than you can obtain from any graph.

As for quarter mile times, we will have to keep it as a surprise until our car's meet.

No problem, I am partial to graphs. I am more visual and my graph making skills have not been tested since my childhood Looking forward to meeting with you in the near future.

[AdamT]

You two both have a highly admirable and respectful competitive spirit i cant imagine what this meeting between the two cars is going to be like!

all the best
adam

[HotRodGuy]

so when will this meeting take place? Will it be an article in Excellence? I can't wait to hear the results!

[Ken]

If you gentlemen don't mind, I'd really like a little notice to when you're getting together. I don't have a lot to do so I wouldn't mind making a trip just about anywhere to see the two beasts perform next to each other.

thanks

[cjv]

The first article Dave Colman is doing should be in the December Excellence. The article involving cjv/ s car go, EVO Stage V, Techart GT street S and possibly one other unconfirmed car will be printed sometime after the first article.

The other cars are currently ready. Todd has requested some time to get the Stage V car ready. As soon as he says it is ready Dave Colmen, the writer, will arrange track, strip and dyno dates. When these dates are secured, I will post. I'm sure it will be open to spectators.

[cjv]

The cjv/ s car go and Techart GT street S are ready. There is yet one manufacturer who has not accepted or rejected the invitation. Todd has requested additional time to ready the EVO Stage V car. As soon as he is ready, Dave Colman, a writer for Excellence, will schedule Thunder Hill, Sacramento Drag Strip and RPM Dyno and Tuning for the comparisons. One driver will operate all cars to obtain an equal comparison.

As soon as I have the dates, I will post. I'm sure this will be available for any interested spectators.

[Michael W.]

Sweet jesus!! Get a RUF R Turbo into that thing and once the test are done I will finally have my holy grail of comparo's so I can choose a route for my upgrade package.

[BCS996TT]

...I just might have to fly out to CA for this!!!

[BCS996TT]

...I just might have to fly out to CA for this!!!

[cjv]

Michael,

The one we are waiting to hear from is Asgar from Ruf (Weissach Performance)

[john stephanus]

Chad,

Have you tlked with Todd @ Protomotive (or Hamann) about having one of his cars in the test?

John

[cjv]

John,

Todd at Protomotive did the ECU on the cjv/ s car go.