Originally Posted by speed21

2) Not clear here. Keeping up is indicating to me your 458 can't get past the TT least of all "kill" it anywhere. I was hoping to hear that the 458 had the TTS's measure in every situation and them some. I do realise most driving is done under 120kph these days so the car needs to be quick from zero onward and comparable in in-gear acceleration. How do you rate it vs the TT in that area?


I'll get you more feedback when I go on more drives with him. On this drive overtaking was not allowed in the interests of safety as we were on narrow and at times winding desert roads. He went north of 260 km/hr several times while I was tending to keep it under 250 km/hr. I can say I never felt the need to over take since he was going too fast on a route he was very familiar with, hence he was supposed to lead, while it was my first time on it. I'll drag him next time some where else and let you know, but my educated guess is that the 458 will be only marginally faster 0-100km/hr than the 997 TT or TTS but will easily lose to either 991 TT in a straight line. Ferrari is not about having the fastest car on the block.







I've never heard anyone say a Porsche is a cold car to drive. Maybe understandable for a competitor to say that in a bid to gain the upper hand in making a sale but that'd be it....but i would question the intentions of anyone making that remark. I would suspect many Ferraris would have more emotion than a PT in the sense of engine sound, higher RPM limit, and general linearity of the naturally aspirated engine however this is basically the start and finish of the emotional edge unless of course you are adding into the equation the sense of occasion the car creates. Mind you a GT3 is up there in the former sense but so is a Boxster S and a 911S....but without the same sense of occasion that a F car would turn of course.

Agree with all of above.

Originally Posted by mdc

If I understood what you are posting here, the TT/TTS has more than a few critical area that you are weren't sold on - speed, soul, engine note etc. This has gone from TT vs TTS, to if the 991 is even the right car, in a Porsche forum .

I wouldn't be able to write that kind of check for a car that I have so many doubt of. I wish there is that "one" car out there for all of us, but life would be quite boring if that is the case. Good news is more and more reviews are now out for 991 TT/TTS.

Originally Posted by speedsterr

I am thinking of getting the new turbo or a vantage S. They are around the same price, (off by only a few thousand), but I wanted to know the difference between a turbo and turbo S besides the added hp.

I mean 0-60 in 3 seconds for the turbo is more than enough for the street and it is 45k cheaper. And when I spec it out with all performance, turbo s wheels, but no carbon brakes, and some extra leather and aluminum it comes out to about 165k and I can get 10k off from my local dealer to make it 155k. The aston MSRP fully loaded vantage S with pretty much everything except B&O system which apparently vantage S owners do not pay extra for would be 155k.

The dealer may give me 5-8k off max since they say special ordered ones usually only sell for MSRP.

Both cars I would immediately upon delivery add a quicksilver titanium exhaust and HRE monoblock wheels. I think the new one is the s101 I believe? But those may look better on the aston than the porsche. May go p40sc on the porsche.

What do you all think? Which is better? This car will be daily driven.

Originally Posted by Geo_Carrera

What dealer are you dealing with. I would like $10 K off my order too. THX

Originally Posted by Tacet-Conundrum

Sorry, first thing I thought after reading the first paragraph is "This Dude is cross shopping a Vantage with an 911 TT"?

You dont happen to work for William Morris Agency?