Some of the higher prices surprise me esp with the low miles:

 

I wouldn't say any of those are that low of miles for a TTS. Any other car that would be considered low though. I logged in earlier. Did you check the 15's w 6k on the clock that were selling for 150?

 

I ask my car dealer periodically for the 2014 auction prices just to see how good or bad my 2014 is doing.

 

Got it. Don't hesitate to shoot me a PM and and I'll send you the list of you like as well.

 

Thanks for your generous offer Sir!

 

Can you please PM me Auction data for 2015 911 turbo s and 2016 cayenne Turbo S if you can. Thanks

 

Not many sales as the 15 is so new

 

Thanks very much ...gives us all better insight - knowing where to negotiate from

 

These are MMR numbers, you don't know the conditions, announcements, transport, or recon due on the cars. These numbers are about as low as it gets unless a dealer is stealing a trade and dropping ACV. The cars on the lot will have a lot more margin packed into their price along with things above and then dealer department packs. I just say this so that no one walks into a Porsche dealer and quotes MMR expecting such pricing.

 

Don't disagree. You'd have to go to the auction to see the car itself. Not always but more often than not there is a reason cars end up at a action. Whether its the financing arm unloading the cars or someone getting rid of a headache. Cream puffs are easy to just sell retail. You don't even know the option list from these numbers but it is a barometer for folks to see.

 

Great to see those Manheim numbers. Aren't those 15 numbers a bit crazy? If you look at a 15 leftover with a 200k sticker (pretty well optioned), you can get that car for $170k, no problem. An auction car for $164k? As we discussed, the used market seems really heated. The 14s really shouldn't demand such high prices.

 

For the 15's that's a small sample
Size. The other issue withe prices reflected for the 14's are you don't see the build sheets. There is a large discrepancy between cars that are loaded up. I actually don't see the 14 prices as that crazy at all. There still aren't all that many options for cars on secondary market.

 

That's a very good point, totally forgot about that aspect. Simple supply and demand. People want them, very few cars, people are willing to pay up. Real economics are that a leftover '15 is a much better value that a used '14 with miles.