Lease Depreciation vs Actual Market Value
#1
Lease Depreciation vs Actual Market Value
Porsche financial services publishes a residual on the Turbo S Cab around 52% for 3 years.
That means 2014 models should have a theoretical value of around $100K - $110K as 2017's have already started delivery.
However, all of the 2014's I've seen listed for sale are asking (and presumably getting) around $150K.
If the actual market value is so much higher than residual, why doesn't PFS change the residual? It would certainly make for a more affordable payment!
That means 2014 models should have a theoretical value of around $100K - $110K as 2017's have already started delivery.
However, all of the 2014's I've seen listed for sale are asking (and presumably getting) around $150K.
If the actual market value is so much higher than residual, why doesn't PFS change the residual? It would certainly make for a more affordable payment!
#2
The residual is only important to the lessee.
Maybe dealers are listing 2014's at $150k with CPO but there is no way a private party would get that unless the car was perfect with only a few thousand miles.
Maybe dealers are listing 2014's at $150k with CPO but there is no way a private party would get that unless the car was perfect with only a few thousand miles.
#3
most 2014's that I have seen including CPO'd vehicles are as low as $125-130K, Turbo S coupe with average 15-20K miles. 2015's are closer to the $140-150K mark but saw a few in the mid to high $130K range
#4
Those are just asking prices-- the majority of those actual sales are for less. If PFS set their residuals too high they would take a bath in lease returns at the auction because no one would buy out their lease or be able to trade it in early. The pull thru program would fail as well. The most important thing in building a profitable lease finance company is setting the right residuals.
Plus I do believe PFS has residual insurance hence the MRM caps and thus cant over value them.
Plus I do believe PFS has residual insurance hence the MRM caps and thus cant over value them.
#5
Got a formal quote from dealer today on a 2016 Turbo S Cabriolet. Residual is 49%!
Holy cow that's terrible! Especially considering real-world market value is closer to 60% to 65% after 3 years.
Dealer tried to explain that brands like Mercedes and BMW subsidize the residuals so lessees are never in a position of equity. It forces lessees to either keep the cars full term, or go back to the same brand to take advantage of a trade-up promotion.
Dealer claims Porsche prefers that lessees have a position of equity at all times so they can a) buy the car at term end so PFS doesn't get stuck with a bunch of auction cars, or b) lessee can trade to dealer and not feel like they got hosed.
Finally, dealer explained PCNA limits the number of cars to North America to keep demand high and supply somewhat limited.
Holy cow that's terrible! Especially considering real-world market value is closer to 60% to 65% after 3 years.
Dealer tried to explain that brands like Mercedes and BMW subsidize the residuals so lessees are never in a position of equity. It forces lessees to either keep the cars full term, or go back to the same brand to take advantage of a trade-up promotion.
Dealer claims Porsche prefers that lessees have a position of equity at all times so they can a) buy the car at term end so PFS doesn't get stuck with a bunch of auction cars, or b) lessee can trade to dealer and not feel like they got hosed.
Finally, dealer explained PCNA limits the number of cars to North America to keep demand high and supply somewhat limited.
#6
Call me crazy, but I'm not seeing this. Maybe 1 low optioned, clapped out car in each category.
#7
Porsche builds as many (if not more) 911's then they can sell. The Turbo model is probably the worst. So many sitting on dealerships for months/years. That's why the residual is low. It's an awesome all around car for serious performance enthusiasts who want literally the fastest car for under a $million but it's a car that anyone can get easily with no money down and good credit.
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