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AG991 Feb 29, 2012 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by SM_ATL (Post 3471152)
Getting ready for the track - Part 2

Went for a pre-track inspection today at a new (for me) shop: Freed Performance in Cumming, GA: http://www.freedperformance.com/. Sean Freed who runs the place has spent several years in a Porsche dealership and is a friendly no-nonsense guy who knows what he is talking about. I'll surely be back for future performance upgrades.

The 991 was in good company with a few ancestors (some of them in need of some serious restoration work):
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/...fa093896ec.jpg

We put the car on the lift for the inspection which gave me the opportunity to get a closer look at the 991's underpinnings:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/...841bdb61fa.jpg

A nice detail, the air duct that really guides air from under the car to the rear brakes rotor:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7207/...8bd3669702.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7192/...3edc685aa9.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7052/...6f4db79be6.jpg

The Sport Exhaust flaps system:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/...2fa4055de8.jpg

I did not expect to find anything significant during the inspection... but it turned out that a tire had to be replaced. This was so shocking, that I'll explain the story in a separate post;)

Bummer about the tire. Did you have wheel/tire insurance? A must in NJ where there are no roads, just patches of asphalt connecting the potholes.

fixedupw203 Feb 29, 2012 07:22 PM

what happened with the tire? Glad you caught it during the inspection since the damn car doesn't have a spare! Did the tire pressure monitoring system alert you at all to needing a new tire?

SM_ATL Feb 29, 2012 07:45 PM

Why I hate Car Washes :mad::mad::mad:

I love to keep my cars in pristine condition and one way or another, I get them washed once a week. Sometimes, I would do it myself, sometimes go to a hand car wash and sometimes... go for a quick fully automated car wash.

And this is where I got victim of my ignorance as I only found out about the issue during the inspection: it looks like my nice big and wide rear wheels... are in fact too wide for my local car wash(es) conveyors. This was not noticeable when the car went through the car wash and I can not even tell at which car wash it happened since I have already been to 3 or 4 different places :mad:

Here's a pic of what we found out when we put the car on the lift:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6796080930/
The inside of the rim was scratched and big chunks of rubber had been ripped off the tire. There was no way I was going to the track with a tire in this condition. Right now, it looks like only the Porsche dealerships have the 991 20" tires (P-Zero's) in stock and my local dealer fixed this promptly.
FYI, the retail price of the tire is about ~$560 + installation :eek:, but we could make it work out OK.

While I was at the dealership, I could see that my previous ride was nicely waiting for a new owner in the showroom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6796327700/
I also appreciated the comment on the sticker: "Customer added many extras" :D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6942443341/

Psycho Sid Feb 29, 2012 07:55 PM

Oh boy that sucks.
But it's a good thing ya found this when you did, could have been real bad if you went tracking with that.

Is the rim OK?

SM_ATL Feb 29, 2012 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Psycho Sid (Post 3471268)
Oh boy that sucks.
But it's a good thing ya found this when you did, could have been real bad if you went tracking with that.

Is the rim OK?

Rim is intact (scratches were very superficial) and yes this could have had very bad consequences on the track (there were even bigger chunks of rubber missing, and this all around the tire's circumference). There's a reason why track inspections are mandatory, even for cars that are only a few weeks old!

SM_ATL Feb 29, 2012 10:05 PM

Nice black rims... seen on a Panamera Turbo S today at the dealership.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6942441533/
Sticker said "911 Turbo II 20" wheels" but does not look to be the case. Not sure these rims are OEM... HRE's? Other?.

Psycho Sid Feb 29, 2012 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by SM_ATL (Post 3471274)
Rim is intact (scratches were very superficial) and yes this could have had very bad consequences on the track (there were even bigger chunks of rubber missing, and this all around the tire's circumference). There's a reason why track inspections are mandatory, even for cars that are only a few weeks old!

Glad it worked out.
Re Panamera rims, definitely not stock, looks like 22".
A little too much for my tastes.

SM_ATL Mar 1, 2012 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Psycho Sid (Post 3471416)
Glad it worked out.
Re Panamera rims, definitely not stock, looks like 22".
A little too much for my tastes.

You are right for the rims size, I did not check, but definitely more than 20".
I think that 20" is already big, including on the 991. Not sure I would not rather go for 19" instead for aftermarket wheels.

catchmyshadow Mar 1, 2012 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by SM_ATL (Post 3471406)
Nice black rims... seen on a Panamera Turbo S today at the dealership.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/6...c878d18bde.jpg

Sticker said "911 Turbo II 20" wheels" but does not look to be the case. Not sure these rims are OEM... HRE's? Other?.

multi spoke design and thinner spokes, fits nicely with the blacked out look.
i wonder as well if these are OEM, but i don`t think so.

SM_ATL Mar 1, 2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by catchmyshadow (Post 3471569)
multi spoke design and thinner spokes, fits nicely with the blacked out look.
i wonder as well if these are OEM, but i don`t think so.

Checked with the dealership. Rims are "innsbruck" wheels in matte black by Victor Equipment. I'll enquire about pricing for 19" and 20"...

SM_ATL Mar 3, 2012 08:01 AM

Getting on the track in 20 minutes. Counting down seconds ;)

Psycho Sid Mar 3, 2012 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by SM_ATL (Post 3473712)
Getting on the track in 20 minutes. Counting down seconds ;)

Oooooh you're a lucky guy!!!
Give us your feed back when you're done.

AG991 Mar 3, 2012 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Psycho Sid (Post 3473727)
Oooooh you're a lucky guy!!!
Give us your feed back when you're done.

First, be safe out there. Second, let us know how the 991 does on the track. I have a track day planned for mine in June at Thunderbolt in South NJ.

SM_ATL Mar 3, 2012 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Psycho Sid (Post 3473727)
Oooooh you're a lucky guy!!!
Give us your feed back when you're done.


Originally Posted by AG991 (Post 3473814)
First, be safe out there. Second, let us know how the 991 does on the track. I have a track day planned for mine in June at Thunderbolt in South NJ.

Thanks, I was safe and, wow, what a car :cool:

OK, I am obviously biased, but first, let me just share how amazed I was by 911's in general. The track days are organized at Road Atlanta by the local BMW chapter, so there were of course more Bimmers than any other cars there (and I am not picking on BMW, I love cars like the M3 and the event is great). The point is that 911's, whether it was the 991, a bunch of 997's and a few older models were all going faster than other cars on the track (BMW's M series, Aston Martin and various other stuff...).

A friend of mine was running his 997.2 C2S and, to be honest, we did not go at a very different pace around the track -there were 20+ cars per session so there was a lot overtaking that kept slowing us down too...-. This should reassure those that are still hesitating between a 997 GTS for instance and a 991S. At the end of the day, you would need to be a great driver to use 99% of both car's potential and get a significantly better time in the 991S BUT the 991S will get you there without breaking a sweat. The stability of the car is impressive, brakes -not PCCB- stay effective lap after lap and the PDK in Sport Plus mode sometimes anticipate your own moves. I'd say that you could only do 30% of the shifting manually if you wanted. It does not mean that you are necessarily less involved, but you can be more focused on your trajectory.

The only slightly negative point is a little too much body roll, especially in long high speed curves. I'll get the suspension tuned with springs and sway bars as soon as aftermarket parts become available, but for those of you who are still working on their build, INCLUDE THE PDCC (and drop something else if needed!).

I am back on the track tomorrow morning and will have pictures and videos ready over the next couple of days/weeks, but here are a few iPhone shots in the meantime:

Our basecamp (991S, 992 C2S, M3 -not on the picture):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6804826890/
The 991S ready to run:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6950939997/
...on the grid:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6950940939/

SM_ATL Mar 3, 2012 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by SM_ATL (Post 3471887)
Checked with the dealership. Rims are "innsbruck" wheels in matte black by Victor Equipment. I'll enquire about pricing for 19" and 20"...

Got the pricing and these forged wheels are stupid cheap (<$500) and very light. I'll probably give it a try in 20" for a while (I'll just buy a set and transfer my P-Zero on them).

The friend of mine running the 997 C2S had bought the same wheels over the week end (had not talked to him but he was at the wheels shop and liked them too) and got them mounted in 19" on his car:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6950940621/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60293300@N06/6804827654/
The wheels are covered with brake dust and the pics are not very good, but they look great in reality. Most of the guys we saw were asking if they were P40's ;) . My buddy was pleased with the wheels on the track. One more reason to give t a try...


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