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SanibelSpeed Jun 6, 2013 12:00 PM

AutoWeek's Driving Impressions of Carrera S
 
AW sings the praises of the 991 C2S:
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...n=awdailydrive

handfull Jun 6, 2013 02:01 PM

Good article, but did the driver have his left foot on the brake during the acceleration test! :-)

ChuckJ Jun 6, 2013 04:50 PM

For you track guys, is this quote from the article really true, I have never read that any of you had this problem.
"However, the tires do fall off fast with too much heat and get greasy, making the car a handful. Some tire’s performance gradually fall off when they get too warm, but these Pirelli’s just tanked causing the rear to step out and catching it isn’t easy. When that happens, it’s definitely time to head into the paddock for a break."

ChuckJ

KonaKai Jun 6, 2013 04:57 PM

Chuck - he's wrong. They start to get gradually greasy around 40psi but its still plenty within control. Also the engine hasn't been muted at all. A (non PSE) stock 991 is louder than the same stock 997.

ChuckJ Jun 6, 2013 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by KonaKai (Post 3866163)
Chuck - he's wrong. They start to get gradually greasy around 40psi but its still plenty within control. Also the engine hasn't been muted at all. A (non PSE) stock 991 is louder than the same stock 997.

Thanks Kona, what pressure do you use? Agree on the sound comment.

ChuckJ

KonaKai Jun 6, 2013 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by ChuckJ (Post 3866167)
Thanks Kona, what pressure do you use? Agree on the sound comment.

Start around 30/32 and monitor. Maybe less in middle of summer (tho I like to stay off track during the hottest months). The idea is to keep them under 40 for most of the session. He may have started (much) higher. I can't comment on pressures above 50 if that's the case. (As an aside, it's funny that a lot of PCA DE manuals still recommend ADDING air to the tires before tracking). I ran my whole first season with extra air bc this was the advice I got from old-timers at the track.

The Pirellis are very good on track but I still switched to R888's this season bc my speeds are up and I figured cost-wise it will net out. I also like having my street tires in pristine condition for wet days. It's amazing how good they look after 5k miles with no track days!

Also, to another of his comments, it kind of depends who you ask, but many track guys think PCCB's are not up to serious track duty. In fact, I noticed for the first time in the 991 GT3 brochure Porsche explicitly giving certain warnings about using PCCB's on track. On the other hand, I know guys at the track I see season after season running the same stock PCCB's and they report no issues.

That said, I tried PCCB's for the first time (fast street driving) on a .2TTS last week and they are stupendous - noticeably better than the stock pads. They have an initial bite that gives so much confidence. It's the only thing I felt jealous about the TTS.

I am switching to the newly released Pagids for my next event (coming Mon at Limerock). IMO that is the single best mod for the car if you take it on track. ZI will be doing the swap myself this weekend. Again, I expect the costs to net out over time since I was going through stock pads very fast.

I expect I won't touch anything else on this car - -everything else is just perfectly tuned on track.

Mr.Boon Jun 7, 2013 12:53 AM

Thanks for sharing. My 991 should hit the dealer today... cant wait!!

CarreraPete Jun 7, 2013 08:54 AM

Sometimes I wonder if some of these reviewers actually know how to drive a high-performance car.

My last car was a lightly-modded ZO6 that was a beast on the street and the strip, but it didn't give me half the pleasure I'm now getting from my CS2.

ChuckJ Jun 7, 2013 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by CarreraPete (Post 3866537)
Sometimes I wonder if some of these reviewers actually know how to drive a high-performance car.

My last car was a lightly-modded ZO6 that was a beast on the street and the strip, but it didn't give me half the pleasure I'm now getting from my CS2.

Agree completely, though we just had a base C6.

ChuckJ

TTCarrera Jun 7, 2013 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by CarreraPete (Post 3866537)
Sometimes I wonder if some of these reviewers actually know how to drive a high-performance car.

You nailed it. Here's the same guy's review of the 991 a year ago.

He must think no one read it. Or maybe he doesn't remember what he wrote.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...IEWS/121109876

flyanddive Jun 7, 2013 11:36 PM

The 991 to me, is the perfect mix of luxury/performance sports car. Everything else either feels cheap, has luxury but is a dog, or is way overpriced for what you get.

rnl Jun 8, 2013 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by TTCarrera (Post 3867198)

You nailed it. Here's the same guy's review of the 991 a year ago.

He must think no one read it. Or maybe he doesn't remember what he wrote.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...IEWS/121109876

They have to sell magazines. Few if any of those writers can afford to buy a 991. As far as "expert opinion" goes, just ask the last guy who believed his experts, President Romney.


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