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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eddtiff
To me, the 458 is really on a different level to Porsche.

Although, the 991 is a wonderful car, the brand and cost push Ferrari to the next level in terms of prestige.

It's very common to see 991's on the street everyday. 458's on the other hand come out really only on weekends here.
If you like Ferrari (or cars in general), visit Switzerland... They're on every corner of the street here. Just like Porsche, Lamborghini and even Pagani btw. I think a Hyundai or a Kia is more exclusive over here. LOL




Originally Posted by bccars

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Ooooooh yes. The AR 8C is sooooooooooo sexy. I've only seen it once in real life. Piece of art !
I've been lucky enough to drive it for about 45 minutes. When they introduced it, they let all owners of dealerships drive the car for a day. My uncle happen to be an owner of a dealership and he gave me the oppertunity to drive it, allthough I was not allowed to floor it
They've only built 500 of them. It's a magnificent car, with a beautiful engine and an amazing sound.



Originally Posted by bccars
Indeed this is a gorgeous pic. I love the side view, love the view of the back. But am I the only one here that can't stand the frontal view of the 458 ? Those light clusters look .. well, I don't have a word for it ..

To me, the 991 is a much prettier car !

But as a sportscar, dynamically, the 458 is probably on top. As a complete package though, the 458 can't touch the 991 for me.
Agree with that. I love the brand Ferrari and I think that I like both cars equally in terms of looks (allthough very different), but when I had to make a choice between a 458 and a 911 to own, I would choose the 911 in a heartbeat.

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I've been lucky enough to drive it for about 45 minutes. When they introduced it, they let all owners of dealerships drive the car for a day. My uncle happen to be an owner of a dealership and he gave me the oppertunity to drive it, allthough I was not allowed to floor it
They've only built 500 of them. It's a magnificent car, with a beautiful engine and an amazing sound.
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Ah Suzy, sound, don't get me started. Long time ago I was soooo in love with the sound of the Maseratie Trofeo. I mean the old ones with the V8, not the current ones based on the Gran Turismo. Not as pretty as the AR 8C offcourse, being dedicated track cars, but that V8 engine tuned by Ferrari, mmmmmmm, so aggressive ... you should definitely try to check those out on youtube if you like that kind of engine symphony !
 
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And it's little sister - the new 4C

Here's how they make them:

Alfa Romeo 4C: excellence made in Italy - YouTube
I trust handmade for fine interiors and engine assembly. For building and assembling a chassis and body, I rather trust robotics.
 
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Originally Posted by bccars
Indeed this is a gorgeous pic. I love the side view, love the view of the back. But am I the only one here that can't stand the frontal view of the 458 ? Those light clusters look .. well, I don't have a word for it ..
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I have some issues regarding the 458's looks as well - starting with those headlights. Performance wise, while my experience was brief, I have absolutely nothing negative to say.
 
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Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
Apples-to-apples, you'd have to compare the new 458 Scuderia to the GT3 and guess who comes out on top?
Beg to differ...The 458 Scud needs to be compared to the 991GT3RS...

The 458 vs. 991GT3 will be an interesting comparison based on performance only. Having driven the 458, I can't wait to see how the GT3 compares...The two cars are still in different categories in every other respect IMO.
 
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Ferrari has lost some of it's prestige IMO. The cars are great however when I attend events at the Circuit of the Americas, there are lots of little chubby dudes wearing Ferrari red, lots of gold and escorted by a tall blond haired brunette with big fake ***** and high heels. While I don't want to be a member of a club that would have me as one of it's members, I am not sure the I care to be a Ferrari club member either.
 
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While I also agree that the 458's front grille and headlights are its worst features, overall it's a beautiful car and one I thought I'd love to own (even had an order in on one in 2010). I've since found that it's as much an attention ***** as is the Lamborghini and that the older I get, the less attention I crave. I think that's part of the appeal of the 911 to me: timeless good looks, impeccable history, and supercar performance in a reliable, comfortable daily driver which doesn't cost an obscene amount of money.
 
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Originally Posted by conekilr
Beg to differ...The 458 Scud needs to be compared to the 991GT3RS...
No doubt, but I'm comparing car models that are in production this year, not future cars. The 458 Scud is supposed to go on sale shortly after intro in Sept. but the GT3RS isn't slated for production until 2014.
 
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I guess coming from someone who digs the looks of a Nissan, it's understandable that you have no aesthetic sensibilities. I know I shouldn't respond to trolls - it just encourages them - so I'll stop now before lowering myself any further.
LOL pot...kettle...black

I love my California. I live in year-round sunny weather and this is the first convertible I've owned. I wonder why I waited so long? I've used her as a daily driver for the past 1.5 years and she has been as reliable as my 997.1C2S and more intoxicating. I enjoyed 4 years of DD the C2S, excellent performance and an understated Meteor Grey. Unfortunately, I ruptured my left Achilles executing a flying knee kick (I do muay thai) and it was too painful to drive the C2S even 6 months after the surgery.

Even though the Cali is Nero Daytona, I get an inordinate amount of attention and it is disconcerting at times. So many yahoos want to race, some grandpa in his Vette was revving his engine next to me in afternoon traffic on the way home last week.

On 2 separate occasions, I've had girls follow me off the highway on my way home. Sounds like it would be cool but it's rather creepy

I am currently #2 on the list for the 458 Spider. My friend came over to my house after he received the first Spider in our state last year and the 20 minutes I experienced behind the wheel was fantastic. As they say, it was love at first sight.

I'm still a bachelor and don't have any kids so I thought this would be the time to make the move. I still love Porsche (the service manager is my patient) but Ferrari ownership, for better or worse, is a completely different experience IMHO.

Originally Posted by SanibelSpeed
While I also agree that the 458's front grille and headlights are its worst features, overall it's a beautiful car and one I thought I'd love to own (even had an order in on one in 2010). I've since found that it's as much an attention ***** as is the Lamborghini and that the older I get, the less attention I crave. I think that's part of the appeal of the 911 to me: timeless good looks, impeccable history, and supercar performance in a reliable, comfortable daily driver which doesn't cost an obscene amount of money.
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hibernating enjoying the twisty mountain roads
Lets do it together ...I've now followed your footsteps (litterly) and done it a couple of times!! The grip is amazing...litterly glued...oops..,off topic...talk offline
 
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Originally Posted by surfah
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On 2 separate occasions, I've had girls follow me off the highway on my way home. Sounds like it would be cool but it's rather creepy
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I'm still a bachelor and don't have any kids so I thought this would be the time to make the move. ...
Me thinks these two statements are related...

A bachelor and a husband act differently. Girls can smell this like dogs can smell fear.
 
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Your 911 squirts rich bachelor feromones out of its exhaust pipes ! Those girls just can't help themselves.
 
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Lets do it together ...I've now followed your footsteps (litterly) and done it a couple of times!! The grip is amazing...litterly glued...oops..,off topic...talk offline
That's an awful lot of litter you ought to go back and pick up.
 
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Right on. I have a 2 year old that can still sit in the backseat. Not possible with a Ferrari. But they sure sound good tho
 
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Originally Posted by gtKnight
Right on. I have a 2 year old that can still sit in the backseat. Not possible with a Ferrari. But they sure sound good tho
While I don't like these, you could definitely pull this off in a Scaglietti or FF.

So I'd say that is possible.
 


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