I'm bummed out.....
 

Hello,
So I have to clear my thoughts on my c2s.
I have about 1000mls on her and overall pretty happy with the car (who wouldn't be), but I gotta say I'm bummed out over the power or lack of.
This is my first P-car and I'm coming from a P31 C63 AMG.
I wind out the 911 and get all of the power out of her, but I just feel like it isn't enough.
I keep telling myself I will get use to it and I will come around to it, but I still feel like it's not enough.
It's the most beautiful car I ever owned, the PDK I'd fabulous and the handling is superb!
I'm a little over 6 months into my 2yr lease and I'm already thinking of replacing the car (it seems insane, I know). Maybe I'll do a pull ahead on a TTS?? Or GT3?

BTW this is a third position car for me, not DD.

I've been lusting for an F-car for the past few years, maybe it's time--but I can't swing a brand new 458, so it'd be a used 360CS, f430 or Scud.
I don't feel too comfortable with spending close to $200k on a car w/o warranty (hence part of the reason why I ended up ordering my c2s)

What do you guys think?
She's such a beautiful car, I wish there was a way to get 70-100hp/tq
So bummed......:(

if you are unhappy with your 991 C2S power/acceleration, I can assure you will not be happy with a 360cs or a 430 as well, although the experience is totally different.

Sounds to me you need to buy a 991 or 997 turbo. A 458 will also do the trick for you.

Coming from a V8 6.3 liter engine, that feeling you speak of was never going to be replicated.

I think a TTS would help but I'm not too sure what your options are seeing that you've come for a torque monster.
Maybe an R8?

Thanks Duff, I have limited time in a F430 and none in a CS or Scud.
The F430 was so overwhelming at the time and I felt like I was going to break it when winding it out.
CS and Scud owners are so passionate about their cars, I figured they must be raw and have good kick in the pants power.

That's what I'm missing from my c2s, the trq that pulls and pulls hard.
The c2s is FAST, but it just doesn't get my adrenaline pumping the way my C63 did, the c2s kills the AMG in every other dept......sigh....:confused:

I'm beginning to wonder about the PDK for the street. Sure, on a road coarse it's probably the way to go if you're looking for consistancy, but I notice more and more threads popping up about a lack of power on the street, and they all seem to be PDK cars.

I have a manual C2S and the thing is a monster around town. My buddy has the identical car and ran a high-eleven at Atco on street tires. That's pretty remarkable for a 400 (crank) HP car.

I'm coming from a slightly modded C6-ZO6 that was an absolute beast (high ten-second car) and I honestly don't miss the extra torque on the street. The C2S plants the tires and goes like a rocket from the get go.

And I can launch the C2S manual as smooth as silk: having the engine over the wheels really gives the car an edge. All I see is hood when I get on it from a dig.

If you're looking for a torque beast that will break a lot of hearts, you should consider the C7-ZO6. Sure, it's a little rough around the edges when compared to a P-car, but it's surely going to strike terror in the hearts of many people with much more expensive cars. ;)

If you are unhappy with the power of the 991, you will not be happy with a CS, I had one. The CS pulls similar to the Porsche. You have a few choices that make sense for less than 200K and will give you the umph you ant.
You can get into C-7 ZO-6 for under $150. Also, since they are discontinuing the Mclaren 12C, you can definitely find a primo example for under $200K (closer to $150K by the time the 650S comes out). That car is a rocketship.

Thanks dux, but I fear you're correct.
The r8 doesn't do it for me and v10s are impossible to find for a test drive.

IDK, I keep hoping the more I drive the 911, the better it will get as I bond with the car. I just miss those adrenaline pumping sweaty palmed jaunts I had in my AMG:confused:

Thanks, I will search out the 12c, didn't think of it under $200k.
I can't do the ZO6, it's just not me, great car for the money and plenty of kick in the pants, I'm sure, but it does not appeal to me.

How about the new Viper, I see them in duPont?

The PDK is awesome, I don't think that's the problem.
I drive the car in Sport+ manual and typically hold revs into the higher 3000-4000 RPMs so the power is always on tap when driving around, plus the PSE sounds so good when I let off the throttle just a bit :)

Get a turbo and be done with it.

At what speeds are you unhappy with? Straight off the line, or at higher speeds?

You should look into getting a exhaust for your C2S. That might make the next year and a half a bit more fun.

I'll echo the comments regarding the power of a 360, CS or 430…..not to mention the new maintenance costs you will most likely incur.

997.2 GT3RS ?

I had a 2012 P31 C63 AMG coupe and it had good acceleration, but it was like driving a 4 door sedan. Way too much road isolation for my taste, nowhere near Porsche level driver involvement in the driving experience, IMO. My 2014 C2S Cab was great prior to getting pulled out on and a wreck at just 900 miles. I would pick it over the C63 any time. The C2S is a higher revving motor. Maybe you aren't used to that, but I found very satisfying.

Sounds like you'd be a great candidate for headers, an exhaust and a tune on your C2S.

LOL, what a first world problem...

It unlikely it is the PDK as those cars are faster 0-60, etc. than manual cars, and in fact the transmissions are virtually the same, except for how they are changed. The CS2 has pretty good horsepower, but a lot less torque than you are used too.

It is hard to imagine not being satisfied with the performance on the road, but if you love your torque monsters and want Porsche, then a turbo is probably the way to go. Otherwise the vette, camaro, GTR and many others will provide that, but not the refinement or cachet perhaps. Maybe a McLaren, R8 v10 or huracan?